re: Upon what legal authority can governments enforce shelter...

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Im pretty certain every governor swears an oath to the Constitution. This law has never been tested. Just like the laws of segregation by governors were enforceable, until they were not.

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Well, analyze it then, Mr pretty certain.

You stupid fricks do realize that there are elements and special analysis for clauses in the constitution?

So, analyze it, stfu, or preface your opinions with something like: "Idk wtf I'm talking about, but my dream of what America should be like is..." And fill in your fricking opinion where the dots are located.

We will holler at you guys when we think you can add to the conversation. Hell, I think I saw a "how long does mickey d's fry their fries" thread on the ot yesterday.

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So show me where emergency exceptions appear In the Constitution to infringe upon the Bill of Rights, Simple Jack. Or how on Earth everybody staying at home and shutting down the State is the least restrictive mean of promoting a governmental purpose. Or what “elements and special analysis” you’ve got that would give a government such a right? (Hint: you’ve got to find the explicit authority for a government action; no one has to find the prohibition for a government NOT to take that action - see above paragraph).

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The Supreme Court has interpreted the constitution at length on this issue. Either go read those opinions or quit spewing nonsense like the above quote. The constitution isn’t black and white, whether you want it to be or not. State governments have wide latitude when using their emergency police powers, which SCOTUS has determined is encompassed in the Constitution through the 10th amendment and other language.

The constitution is not intended to be all encompassing, it’s a set of guide lines or minimum standards with which other laws and government action must comply. Just like everything else, there are reasonable exceptions. The document is vague and left to interpretation and flexibility—for a reason. Every single right in the constitution is limited by the government, often.

Besides, the government isn’t forcing you to stay in your house. They are asking you to.

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So again, tell me how ordering everyone to stay home is less restrictive than say, ordering just the sick people to stay home?

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Show me where any state is forcing you to stay home. They aren’t. It is not happening. They are asking you to.

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Show me where any state is forcing you to stay home. They aren’t. It is not happening. They are asking you to.

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Tell that to restaurant owners and other “non-essential” workers. JBE didn’t call it a stay at home ask.

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People that keep complaining about it are more aggravating.

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And are usually the ones still out socializing...bc they aren’t going to be told what to do

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The Republic is on life support. There's going to be an uprising. And I don't mean some overly dramatic marching in the streets and shooting our way up the steps of our respective capital buildings. There will be a collective demanding by the people of this country to call for clear, definitive government limits regarding executive powers in a state of emergency. These checks and balances already exist for everything else, but somehow an "emergency" (which can mean anything they want, presently) suddenly cancels all of that, and a new set of ever-changing rules take over? That's not what the founders ever intended. And if we don't get this change, then I guess it WILL be time for a new revolution. Something the founders gave us the right to pursue in the 2nd Amendment.

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Calm down, Nancy.

You’re getting yourself all worked up.

Next time, try saving some extra money in the bank.

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No, it doesn’t. Not when there is a legitimate government interest and the policy doesn’t discriminate and is as least restrictive/narrowly tailored as possible

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You know what that legal standard test is called?

I’ll give you a hint: it starts with “S” and ends with “trict scrutiny”...

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The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants -- Thomas Motherfuking Jefferson

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It is starting to look like a cleansing might be in order.

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Calm down, Nancy.

You’re getting yourself all worked up.

Next time, try saving some extra money in the bank.

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Grow up, Peter Pan.


One doesn't simply "save extra money in the bank" if they are living paycheck to paycheck. And, furthermore, There isn't a magic amount of money to put way, that can get you through an indefinite period of time with no work. Without limits on government power, there is no limit on how long they can drag on any narrative they want to invent and call "an emergency".

It's ignorant people like you who get us into these situations, in the first place. You let government walk on you, and you applaud them. Apathy is dangerous at a time like this. Everyone should be angry and demanding their representatives and senators to hold people accountable.

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Barely saw any cops on the road and nobody pulled over. It may have changed in the past few days, but so far just seems like it’s just scare tactics

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Right now, that's all this is.

It's exactly like the so-called 'mandatory evacuation' for hurricanes. It's just scary language to strongly urge idiots to follow. Anybody with the even a rudimentary understanding of the law know that mandatory evacuations do not mean that it's mandatory that you evacuate.