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re: UPDATED List of FUBARs Leading Up To The Assassination Attempt(s):
Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:57 am to GurleyGirl
Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:57 am to GurleyGirl
I believe he was a patsy, just like Lee Harvey, unfortunately we will never know the truth
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:21 am to thetempleowl
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The theory is the idiot didn't plan on shooting trump he planned on a mass shooting event of Trump supporters. But when he got there and was planning his event he noticed the roof open and he couldn't pass up the protruding of shooting trump. So it was unplanned and the incompetence of the secret service caused the odor to change his plans.
If you’re spraying shots at a large group 100 yards away, do you really need a rangefinder?
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:57 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Yeah, I say B.S. that this kid didn’t receive some manner of inside help.
Biden is ultimately in charge of Trumps security, and therefore his life. The people put in place to ensure Trumps safety are put there by Biden kool-aid drinkers. (Reminder: they werent even offering protection for a candidate whose father and uncle were both assassinated)
I imagine that Trumps security has been this lax since he left the WH. This was just the first real test, and they didnt care if it failed. If they really cared, both Mayorkas and Cheadle would be gone. They are extremely disappointed the wacko missed
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:15 am to Bass Tiger
It was reported early on that the dad reported that BOTH Crooks and his gun were missing. Not sure if that’s been retracted but I definitely remember it being reported on Fox.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:18 am to 1BIGTigerFan
I thought the ladder thing was changed/debunked - did that change again?
Also, what’s the source on USSS knowing he was armed at 5:53?
I think a running list is a good idea btw, but subject it to lots of scrutiny and add the source of info where possible.
Also, what’s the source on USSS knowing he was armed at 5:53?
I think a running list is a good idea btw, but subject it to lots of scrutiny and add the source of info where possible.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:26 am to Toomer Deplorable
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• And now we have the report that the shooter was running drone reconnaissance missions in the hours before the rally begin?
This one left me slack-jawed.
The negligence is so gross by an agency that just doesn’t make mistakes. They are complicity.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:29 am to Pettifogger
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I thought the ladder thing was changed/debunked - did that change again?
The big ladder seen in all the photos wasn't the shooters.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:56 am to Toomer Deplorable
Wonder how many attempts there really have been?
How about raiding Mar Lago, expecting DJT to be there, with pre authorization to use deadly force? Blind all the security video, use a throw down and say the former President fired first.
Crazy dangerous times.
How about raiding Mar Lago, expecting DJT to be there, with pre authorization to use deadly force? Blind all the security video, use a throw down and say the former President fired first.
Crazy dangerous times.
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…the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
1 John 5:19
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:00 am to Bass Tiger
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It was reported on Saturday Crooks parents called local law enforcement, I believe around 3PM to report their son missing, that phone call needs to be released, what parents are reporting their 20 year old son missing unless they're aware he's a danger?
The parents supposedly are blinded yet when their son goes missing with a gun they call police? Yeah, that doesn’t add up.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:01 am to Tunasntigers92
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Michael Thomas Crooks was Lee Harvey Oswald
Dead Men certainly sing no songs…

Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:01 am to psk_Vol
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Don't forget how this guy was literally in a BlackRock commercial a few months ago too. What a coincidence!
In related news, BlackRock has pulled the ad that included the MK-Ultra honor grad from circulation, confirming it was not “fake” news:
BlackRock yanks 2022 ad featuring Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks…
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:04 am to Tunasntigers92
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unfortunately we will never know the truth
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Look. People like SFP and Boosie will roll their eyes at ANY intelligent discussion around this but there’s an unavoidable troop of 400 lb gorillas invading this story.
The errors by the SS are too obvious. There are too many to mention. See the op as reference.
The early justifications for these errors have been laughable and don’t pass the bullshite test.
Leaving Trump out there long after the threat was ID’d is inexcusable and extremely suspicious.
The IC is clearly anti-Trump and has been a more than willing partner in the lefts obsession with ending his political career.
Unless you think RFK is a loon, our government does, indeed, assassinate people.
The timing of this. Immediately prior to the convention, yet moments before his VP announcement, and as stories of Biden’s inevitable demise swirl. The election is all but lost.
The splendid convenience of a young, virtually anonymous shooter with no friends, no apparent political leanings, no social media footprint whatsoever, drawing almost zero curiosity from the media.
People are going to ask questions. And rightfully so. Why should we start trusting the government and media now?
The errors by the SS are too obvious. There are too many to mention. See the op as reference.
The early justifications for these errors have been laughable and don’t pass the bullshite test.
Leaving Trump out there long after the threat was ID’d is inexcusable and extremely suspicious.
The IC is clearly anti-Trump and has been a more than willing partner in the lefts obsession with ending his political career.
Unless you think RFK is a loon, our government does, indeed, assassinate people.
The timing of this. Immediately prior to the convention, yet moments before his VP announcement, and as stories of Biden’s inevitable demise swirl. The election is all but lost.
The splendid convenience of a young, virtually anonymous shooter with no friends, no apparent political leanings, no social media footprint whatsoever, drawing almost zero curiosity from the media.
People are going to ask questions. And rightfully so. Why should we start trusting the government and media now?
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:40 am to Pettifogger
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I thought the ladder thing was changed/debunked - did that change again?
It appears you are correct based on the latest report about the ladder I could find:
What Thomas Matthew Crooks did in hours leading up to attack on Trump…
…Crooks went to a local gun shop that day, where he bought 50 rounds of 5.56 mm ammo. He also stopped at a Home Depot to buy a 5-foot ladder, though it was not found at the scene and is not believed to have been used to access the roof.
I edited the OP to reflect this more current report.
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Also, what’s the source on USSS knowing he was armed at 5:53?
I’m not sure of the exact time but local police saw the shooter on the roof and disengaged after he pointed a rifle at him. At that point, they knew Crooks was armed.
Local cop confronted would-be Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks on roof moments before he opened fire, but failed to stop him…
A local cop spotted attempted assassin Thomas Crooks just moments before he tried to kill former President Donald Trump — but failed to stop the gunman despite the clear threat, according to a report.
After rallygoers spotted Crooks on the roof of a manufacturing plant just 130 yards from the stage where Trump was speaking just after 6 p.m. Tuesday, police were notified and one officer climbed a ladder to investigate, law enforcement officials told the Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.
The officer — whose department had been enlisted by the Secret Service to help with security — encountered Crooks, who pointed his AR-style rifle at them…
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I think a running list is a good idea btw, but subject it to lots of scrutiny and add the source of info where possible.
Pardon the pun but this thread will be a moving target. I certainly welcome any corrections and/or links to discrepancies in reporting about the list.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:42 am to Vacherie Saint
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Unless you ARE a loon, YOU REALIZE our government does, indeed, assassinate people.
FIFY!
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:45 am to 1BIGTigerFan
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I thought the ladder thing was changed/debunked - did that change again?
The big ladder seen in all the photos wasn't the shooters.
Accurate. And Dan Bongino confirmed (likely from people in USSS that he trusts, and trust him) that Crooks purchased a ladder, but did not take the ladder with him to the venue.
He likely got on the roof at the East end of the building (where the building entrance is located) via an AC unit there, then crossed over one of the two bridges connecting the buildings (likely the Easternmost bridge)
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:47 am to Toomer Deplorable
No eyes in the sky via drone. It’s my understanding that a drone is always deployed at these events
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:50 am to Bourre
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It’s my understanding that a drone is always deployed at these events
Most days, yes, but not that day. Nail appointment. Sorry!
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