re: UPDATED!: Democrats screw up shut down EVEN WORSE

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However...the reason we're STILL in a shut down is solely on the Democrats. there's no other way to cut it.

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All he has to do is sign the House bill to open the government, and then sit down and talk to them about all the measures taken on the border over the last 12 years that have been effective, expand on those measures, then look into what conditions have changed on the border and address those issues with new approaches.


"[Not until] we have a wall, a fence, whatever they'd like to call it. I'll call it whatever they want. But it's all the same thing. It's a barrier from people pouring into our country."

"it's not a fence. It's a wall," Trump began. "We're going to build a wall."

For almost every statement he makes, you can go out and find a quote where he makes the opposite statement. Remember when "flip-flopping" was a thing?

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All he has to do is sign the House bill to open the government, and then sit down and talk to them about all the measures taken on the border over the last 12 years that have been effective, expand on those measures, then look into what conditions have changed on the border and address those issues with new approaches.

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"all he has to do is give in to the Democrats demands who, in return, will give him nothing."

don't be stupid

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then sit down and talk to them

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have you not been paying attention? the democrats do not want any type of discussion regarding border security. the 5 bill is not just for the wall....it's for all types of security measures. but the democrats don't give a shite.

A waste of money.

And if the Democrats cave now, Chump and friends will just threaten to shut down the government to get their way again whenever it’s time to pass another budget.

1. Show me a modern, monitored wall that’s goes across desert, hills, and rivers for 2,000 miles. Who will man the wall? What budget will they have? Gonna watch every part of it? Otherwise a wall does nothing more than slow a few people down. They’ll go over, under, and for the steel fence through.

2. They’re doing it now, what makes you think they won’t do it again? Especially since it would prove to have worked. Naive.

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all he has to do is give in to the Democrats demands

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Damn, dude, I don't think you understand what's going on here. Trump is the one making the demand, the dems just aren't going for it.

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the democrats do not want any type of discussion regarding border security.

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Put the Koolaid down, the dems have been voting with the reps for border security for 12 years, that's why the illegal crossings have plummeted. You're a victim of propaganda.

It's all about the Wall, not border security. Trump demands it (hell, he even refers to it as "my wall"), and Pelosi sees an opportunity to poke him in the eye over it. Additionally, he was stupid enough to own the shut down, so now she doesn't have to do shite.

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the 5 bill is not just for the wall....it's for all types of security measures. but the democrats don't give a shite.

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I don't think you're paying attention. The dems would give $25 billion for border security, but only $1 for a wall - ONLY because Trump has made such a big deal over one small part of the overall security picture on the border.

So America sent a man to the moon and split the atom but you don't think we can put up a fence in the fricking desert?


My God you people have reached a galactic level of stupid.

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will just threaten to shut down the government to get their way again whenever it’s time to pass another budget.

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You progs would never do such a thing, right?

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Why do you progs post this stupidity over and over?

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Because the border is give or take a few dozen miles, 2,000 miles long?