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re: UPDATED!: Democrats screw up shut down EVEN WORSE

Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:42 am to
Try to keep up will you?

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clinging to his "irrelevant semantics"


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Trump’s latest iteration is “steel slat barrier,” a description he began using in the last few days as the shutdown deadline loomed.


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“You can name it anything you want,” he said Friday. "Whatever you want to call it, it's all the same. One way or the other we're going to get a wall. We're going to get a barrier.”
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Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:44 am to
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whats hysterical is that liberals actually thought Trump meant Mexico was literally going to cut a check for the wall.

idiots

Its like you are actually retarded.

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He still has this fricking memo on his website, despite his change in position. He is a big of a retard as you are.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:44 am to
Please bird, let that dumbass stay focused on that nonsense.

That's one idiot that we have to deal with to secure our border because the dipshit actually thinks that's a win.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134904 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:45 am to
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If he would go along with what his constituents want, he would allow the government to re-open. Once the government is re-opened, he could get back to the business of border security.

I disagree. His constituents have demanded higher border security for decades and to no avail. He knows that caving now in hopes of negation later will result in rolling snake eyes once again. It's a waiting game and he's holding most of the cards.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:48 am to
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Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall. This includes fees on border crossing cards, of which more than 1 million are issued a year.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:07 pm to
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What shutdown?


Burger King shut down.
Shitters full.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:11 pm to
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I disagree. His constituents have demanded higher border security for decades and to no avail.

You are willfully blind to the facts. Which is curious since we've heard constantly about how Democrats have been voting to spend money on barriers at the border - in the name of border security. Border crossing have plummeted over the last 12 years due to Republicans AND Democrats working together on border security. Then this buffoon shows up and claims NOW there's a crisis (the crisis was in 2006), and the ONLY solution is a "wall, not a fence".

Then you get posters OTB that clam they don't care if it's a wall or a fence, that's all semantics, they just want a secure border. Trump disagrees, however, and demands there be a "wall, not a fence". Then he says he'll own the shutdown. And now posters such as you have the cognitive dissonance to forget what Trump is saying, and just blame the Democrats for things that are simply made up.

It's quite fascinating to watch, actually.

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It's a waiting game and he's holding most of the cards.

He may have cards, but he doesn't have either MONEY, or support from his base for a wall over a fence.


Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Why can't you people stay on message?


Or is this just some crafty way to try to move the goal posts - again ?


You people!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:13 pm to
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Trump is actually making our security concerns WORSE



You do realize that the DHS is closed down right now, don't you?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:13 pm to
Facts you say.

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Trump’s latest iteration is “steel slat barrier,” a description he began using in the last few days as the shutdown deadline loomed.


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“You can name it anything you want,” he said Friday. "Whatever you want to call it, it's all the same. One way or the other we're going to get a wall. We're going to get a barrier.”
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:15 pm to
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I don't understand why you get so bogged down in the most trivial shite you can find


It's all they have. OCD.
Sad.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140866 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Its like you are actually retarded.


From the guy that recently earned his idiot badge. You are funny.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
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You do realize that the DHS is closed down right now, don't you?

Non essentials? Yeah ouch.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:17 pm to
Trump to Pelosi, January 9th, 2019: 'Will you agree to my wall?'



The man can't even stay on his own message.
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Try to keep up

Indeed.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
Dude you are very Toddy like in your fixation.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:30 pm to
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Dude you are very Toddy like in your fixation.

The irony is that I'm not the one who's fixated, Donald Trump is fixated on the wall, and it's responsible for our government to continue to be shut down.

I'm just wondering if any of Trump's supporters actually care about what he says. And apparently few seem to, which brings me around to the point that, if no one but Trump cares about a wall, fence, or barrier, but are really only interested in seeing what the most effective method for securing the border would be, why doesn't he just acquiesce and allow the government to re-open?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73479 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:31 pm to
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if no one but Trump cares about a wall, fence, or barrier,
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:21 pm to
Do YOU care if it's a wall, a fence or a barrier?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21957 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:22 pm to
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bamarep


The majority of the country blames Trump and Republicans for the shut down.

Democrats are playing this perfectly - don't give into a child's tantrum.


You are doing a disservice to Bama, and it's sad.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9777 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:25 pm to
What difference does it make when the majority of the American public blames Trump for the shutdown?

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