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re: Up To 40 Million Firearms Could Be Banned Overnight
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:36 pm to winkchance
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:36 pm to winkchance
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Outside of hollywood, does anyone really use these things?
Yes they do, but rights are not needs based regardless. The Constitution says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. To any sane person, that does not mean that a federal alphabet agency can then create categories, and definitions upon which they then can infringe upon that right.
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:37 pm to Jack Carter
Bet this gets shut down in SCOTUS
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:37 pm to troyt37
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To any sane person, that does not mean that a federal alphabet agency can then create categories, and definitions upon which they then can infringe upon that right.
Yep.
Its pure authoritarianism. They'll continue to do this until all you can buy is hunting rifles with specific rounds.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:46 pm to winkchance
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Outside of hollywood, does anyone really use these things?
Not that it matters, but yes.
Abolish the archaic NFA and it's a nonissue.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:50 pm to winkchance
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Outside of hollywood, does anyone really use these things?
Hollywood doesn’t have to use them. The only reason regular people do is because of nonsensical NFA rules about barrel length.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:51 pm to Flats
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nonsensical NFA rules about barrel length.
they are terrified these can be concealed.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:55 pm to alphaandomega
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But I guess they should have added "this amendment guarantees the citizens of America to own\carry\transport ANY firearm at ANY location at ANY time. Any government employee attempted to subvert this amendment shall be guilty of subversion and the sentence for such an infraction is death".
I think that's part of the problem. There's no criminal penalty for the government (and government employees, by extension) to attempt to subvert constitutional rights. Were there a "trial by firing squad", "$10k personal fine, 10 years in prison and never again allowed to hold any sort of federal position (including contracted and elected positions)", etc. then I think we would see fewer attempts at this sort of chicanery (especially once an example or two were made).
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:56 pm to Bard
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I think that's part of the problem. There's no criminal penalty for the government (and government employees, by extension) to attempt to subvert constitutional rights. Were there a "trial by firing squad", "$10k personal fine, 10 years in prison and never again allowed to hold any sort of federal position (including contracted and elected positions)", etc. then I think we would see fewer attempts at this sort of chicanery (especially once an example or two were made).
What we should have is a law where any congress member sponsoring a bill that is blatantly unconstitutional should never be allowed to hold office again.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What we should have is a law where any congress member sponsoring a bill that is blatantly unconstitutional should never be allowed to hold office again.
Been saying this for a long time. If you take an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and then propose a rule or law that violates it, you have violated your oath, and therefore have resigned from office. If y'all would just make me king for 3-4 years, I could fix all of this shite.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:08 pm to Kolbysfan
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Attorney who tracks suits Follow him. He tracks and reports out suits across the country. I believe the suit you are referring to is this one LINK
Armed Attorneys is another good source of info. Their latest video gives me hope that the ATF is going to shelve this once again.
Is the pistol rule dead?
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He rescinded a presidential order that linked social security mental health records to FBI background checks. It was deemed a violation of privacy.
It was deemed a he of a lot more than that. Typical low-IQ, low-info posting for you though, you don't have a clue about truth behind H.J. Res. 40 Trump signed as the first thing he did undo Obama-era EO's on gun-control. There's no denying that Obama was vastly more anti-2A, he would have signed anything to gut the 2A if it made it to his desk. He was forced to compromise, Trump was absolutely stymied by Congressional inaction. The whole Obama-more-2A-than-Trump narrative is dishonest, RINO-sucking drivel.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:11 pm to Clames
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It was deemed a he of a lot more than that. Typical low-IQ, low-info posting for you though,
Trump was no 2A president, yet here you are supporting what he did.
It goes to show you that simple people will give up their ideology for a cult of personality in a heartbeat.
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After the Parkland, Florida shooting on Feb. 14, 2018 – which claimed the lives of 17 students and faculty members– Trump both defended the Second Amendment and called for a strengthening of federal background checks and a ban on devices that allow guns to rapidly fire.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:12 pm to alphaandomega
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True. I am sure the founders thought it would be sufficient.
Reading some of the writings of the FF, they almost didn't include it because they thought it was so patently obvious it didn't need to be put in the Constitution. It was a "well duh!" to them.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump was no 2A president, yet here you are supporting what he did.
I don't support everything he stated on gun-control but I"m not going to pretend he was anything close the rabid pro-gun-control advocate Obama was. Maybe if you managed to pull your empty little head from your arse every once in a while you'd understand that.
Obama Whitehouse Archive
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It goes to show you that simple people will give up their ideology for a cult of personality in a heartbeat.
That's a riot coming from a simpleton like you, a room temperature IQ on the topic of the 2nd Amendment in all phases. Most enduring act of Trump was in the nomination of Federal court justices and the Bruen decision will do more in the next 10 years than anything you could imagine.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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They'll continue to do this until all you can buy is hunting rifles with specific rounds.
Wrong, they'll go until the only "firearms" available are pellet guns under a certain terminal energy level (12 ft-lbs without a certificate in the UK, unless a pistol then nothing over 6 ft-lbs is legal). Gun-control groups still operate under the exact same ideology since the early 1970's, the names and tactics have changed but not the goals.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:55 pm to beerJeep
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frick YOU AND YOUR ARBITRARY BARREL LENGTH bullshite
right.. and shorter barrels equal less velocity, less accuracy, more noise, and increased felt recoil. and if you want to argue that I can "conceal" an AR pistol with an overall length of like 29+ inches... then I'd argue you're a moron.
there are zero things about an AR pistol that make them more dangerous.
they are simply lighter and more maneuverable.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:27 pm to Jack Carter
Don’t have one. Don’t need one. Didn’t even know what it was. But, screw the ATF and the horse they rode in on. Might buy one just because. Sonsabithes!
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:33 pm to Jack Carter
Whats the problem? Those with the guns will never actually do anything with them. They could keep the guns in hand, they could take them all away. At this point its very obvious that the gun owners are cowards who hide in their houses out in the country and suburbs. To create any problem they would have to band together and go out in force and actually do something in the cities. But they are scared of the cities. They would rather sit at home, enlarge their beer guts, and polish their guns all alone. They will never do anything with them. If they had they would have done something when the democrats were ravaging the cities with hordes of rioters and stealing elections. Lets face it, gun owners by large are hermits.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:46 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
Just read that nonsense from by deer stand. Remington 700 bolt at my side. Have two pistols in my truck. Not looking to cause problems but I can sure stop them.
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