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Universities should scale back SJW curricula.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:20 pm
And increase STEM curricula.
There should be federal assistance for STEM majors. STEM majors are a net positive to society and should have inexpensive to zero cost tuition. SJW majors should be charged double.
There should be federal assistance for STEM majors. STEM majors are a net positive to society and should have inexpensive to zero cost tuition. SJW majors should be charged double.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:22 pm to GumboPot
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And increase STEM curricula
STEM is now ate up with SJWs, though.
"Diversity" is now some sort of acceptable, objective goal of STEM fields. Not competence. Not "diversity of ideas", but straight up quotas, particularly of women and (non South Asian or East Asian) minorities.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:27 pm to Ace Midnight
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STEM is now ate up with SJWs, though.
You serious?
How is that possible? STEM fields are extremely objective. STEM is based on the laws of nature and mathematics. There is no subjectivity.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:29 pm to Ace Midnight
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STEM is now ate up with SJWs, though.
True, (particularly when it comes to NSF awards), but there is still more of a meritocracy than in other curricula.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:30 pm to GumboPot
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And increase STEM curricula.
It's not STEM anymore. It's now STEAM, adding an A for Arts.
Thus destroying any meaning the acronym had to begin with.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:31 pm to GumboPot
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There should be federal assistance for STEM majors.
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federal assistance
The Federal Government should be nowhere near education.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:33 pm to Centinel
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It's not STEM anymore. It's now STEAM, adding an A for Arts.
Thus destroying any meaning the acronym had to begin with.
Good Lord.
Just like SJWs to hide their inadequacies and ride on the coattails of the productive.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:34 pm to GumboPot
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There should be federal assistance for STEM majors. STEM majors are a net positive to society and should have inexpensive to zero cost tuition. SJW majors should be charged double.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:35 pm to GumboPot
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STEM majors are a net positive to society and should have inexpensive to zero cost tuition. SJW majors should be charged double.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:35 pm to Indefatigable
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The Federal Government should be nowhere near education.
But politicians are saying we don't produce enough skilled workers (particularly in the STEM fields). Well, give universities an incentive to produce more STEM majors.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:36 pm to Indefatigable
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The Federal Government should be nowhere near education.
This.
Not that everyone is capable of being an engineer, physicist, botanist, chemist, etc... but making STEM education "free" while having to pay for all other degrees will lead to a shitload of people going into STEM fields. That will lead to people not really interested in the fields to fail out (wasted money) as well as more graduates in these fields that will drive salaries down.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:36 pm to GumboPot
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Good Lord.
Just like SJWs to hide their inadequacies and ride on the coattails of the productive.
From what I read, it was decided that "STEM" wasn't inclusive enough and unfairly left out the arts.
I saw that one coming a mile away.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:36 pm to Ace Midnight
I work in a university system. My supervisor had to sit through 6 hours of PP training modules on diversity, inclusion, microaggressions, EE, etc.
Such bullshite.
Such bullshite.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:36 pm to GumboPot
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Well, give universities an incentive to produce more STEM majors.
Those universities are STATE run institutions. All of the politicians saying these things should return to their STATE, aka the proper political subdivision, to handle and effectuate policy regarding a primarily STATE function.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:37 pm to Centinel
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"STEM" wasn't inclusive enough and unfairly left out the arts.
ETA: I'm fine if the "arts" is glass blowing, metal working, sculpture, graphic arts, etc. etc. Just not majors like women studies, SJW history, etc.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:40 pm to GumboPot
Camille Paglia agrees with you about SJW curricula. She blames the colleges for moving away from subject matter that is designed to provoke thought and research and instead offer subjects that makes students feel good.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:42 pm to GumboPot
Depending on what you mean by SJW curricula, I might be onboard. I'd argue that focus on arts is what separates us from the rest of the world, as the thing China specifically lags behind in is creative thinking. I know numerous gaming companies who need graphic artists more than they need programmers. The US has increased its number of STEM graduates to nearly 600,000 a year. That's nearly twice the number produced in 2000. Arts are important, especially visual arts, as the need for those sorts of artists will increase with technology.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:42 pm to Centinel
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From what I read, it was decided that "STEM" wasn't inclusive enough and unfairly left out the arts.
In a related story, sports and athletics aren't inclusive enough and unfairly leave out the unathletic.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:44 pm to Zach
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She blames the colleges for moving away from subject matter that is designed to provoke thought and research and instead offer subjects that makes students feel good.
Subjects that emotionally make you feel good will generally lead to a skill of being a professional bitch/complainer/victim and no job.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 1:44 pm to GumboPot
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I'm fine if the "arts" is glass blowing, metal working, sculpture, graphic arts, etc. etc. Just not majors like women studies, SJW history, etc.
Full disclosure, I'm not sure if there's a set definition of 'arts' in STEAM yet. I know in my hometown of Huntsville there's a non-profit group called STEAMworks, and for them "Arts" means what you said...glass working, wood working, metal working, sculpture, painting, 3-D printing, etc. Actual creation and fabrication, not liberal arts studies.
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