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Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:49 pm to SSpaniel
I could be wrong but Jesus talks about the weightier matters of the law, and the greatest and least commandments. And if course the cardinal sin. There’s a lot of language of degrees relating to sin.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:55 pm to adp
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Agree to disagree.
quote:Accepting as in folks sitting in the pews are welcome and hopefully, they are learning. Ordaining is leadership and teaching. Unacceptable.
accepting LGBTQ folks and ordaining them.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:25 am to FooManChoo
The Bible was written by man and led by a roman emperor. It has contradictions throughout it. Man says what has changed and we don't have to follow certain rules yet the Bible never says that a law has changed. The Bible even contradicts who killed Goliath and speaking of King David he is involved in the greatest gay love story and it's in the Bible. Homosexuality is a biological trait and is found in hundreds of animal species. People are born that way...period! There have been more wars and deaths because of religion than any other reason in history. Following a " made believe " fantasy book is all people are doing.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:26 am to SOSFAN
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Homosexuality is a biological trait
It's funny how ignorance produces more ignorance
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:28 am to NDonahue
Jesus condemned adultery but never spoke on homosexuality. Christians want to attack homosexuality but ignore everyone committing adultry.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:53 am to SOSFAN
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Christians want to attack homosexuality but ignore everyone committing adultry.
More ignorance
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:59 am to SOSFAN
So much fail.
Of course Christians are against adultery. There is no push to celebrate it with Gods blessing currently though.
The nature of adultery can usually be an event that one can turn back from and repent and feel sorry about doing. For gay marriage it is the exact opposite. The couple feels no need to ever feel sorry and wants celebration instead in a binding relationship going forward.
Of course Christians are against adultery. There is no push to celebrate it with Gods blessing currently though.
The nature of adultery can usually be an event that one can turn back from and repent and feel sorry about doing. For gay marriage it is the exact opposite. The couple feels no need to ever feel sorry and wants celebration instead in a binding relationship going forward.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:04 am to SOSFAN
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There have been more wars and deaths because of religion than any other reason in history
Man is fundamentally religious and tribal.
What you’re railing against is human nature.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:09 am to TopFlightSecurity
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Any as long as you aren't gay or support abortion all other sins are hand waved and excused.
Please be sarcasm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:43 am to Diamondawg
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Close the loop for me. What does tax exempt status have to do with what is taught in a Church? Is there a government version of the Bible that I am not aware of? What about givings? Give up 501(c)3 status and you lose tax deductible donations. Some people give more just because of that.
Seriously? Because from the pulpit the church has to remain silent about specific hot button political issues or endorsing candidates......., here's a brief explanation
A 501(c)(3) organization can maintain its tax-exempt status if it follows the rules affecting these six areas: private benefit/inurement, lobbying, political campaign activity, unrelated business income (UBI), annual reporting obligation, and operation in accordance with stated exempt purpose(s).
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:47 am to SOSFAN
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The Bible even contradicts who killed Goliath
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King David he is involved in the greatest gay love story and it's in the Bible
Uh.... what?
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The Bible was written by man and led by a roman emperor.
The Bible is led by a roman emperor? Huh?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 9:49 am to SOSFAN
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Jesus condemned adultery but never spoke on homosexuality. Christians want to attack homosexuality but ignore everyone committing adultry.
God destroyed cities and their inhabitants due to homosexuality...so...
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:01 am to SSpaniel
Im guessing this fellow also thinks Ruth and Naomi were secret lesbian lovers lol.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:03 am to SOSFAN
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Jesus condemned adultery but never spoke on homosexuality.
Nice try at using Jesus to manipulate people into accepting your point of view. Let me guess... Jesus was also a socialist, right? (Wrong).
Actually he had mercy on the woman who was caught in the act of adultery. He didn’t condemn her. “Let he who hath never sinned cast the first stone.” And the person who saw him first after rising from the dead was a former prostitute, who had previously repented. But he also said, “Sin no more.”
Christians should have mercy on people who are lgbtq, and should fully welcome them in the congregation as they are, as long as they have a sincere desire to know God. Because when they know God, they will eventually understand homosexuality is a sin. Therefore the church should never recognize it as legitimate, and should should never marry them, nor should they ever accept them into the clergy. It’s very clear throughout the Old Testament, and throughout Paul’s epistles.
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:15 am to Bass Tiger
quote:Yes - I know that. Politics from the pulpit is way different from restricting the use of the Bible; as in,
Seriously? Because from the pulpit the church has to remain silent about specific hot button political issues or endorsing candidates......., here's a brief explanation
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"forfeit their tax exempt status and allow the Holy Word of the Bible to be preached unfiltered".
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:22 am to Diamondawg
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Fundamentalist/evangelical churches should forfeit their tax exempt status
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Close the loop for me. What does tax exempt status have to do with what is taught in a Church? Is there a government version of the Bible that I am not aware of? What about givings? Give up 501(c)3 status and you lose tax deductible donations. Some people give more just because of that.
Churches should remain tax exempt. The power to tax is the power to destroy.
Furthermore once churches become taxed there will soon arise tax breaks for certain churches for acting in certain manners.
Also tax deductions for giving to church will never affect my giving. I always give cash. I give cash because the amount I donate is between me and God and not between me and man.
I never claim tax deductions on my charity giving, whether to church or some charity.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:27 am to adp
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no sin is bigger than another.
I see this a lot and would love to see the evidence, because it is not true. Even the Lord Jesus Christ himself told Pilate “they” (the ones that delivered him to Pilate) had the greater sin. All throughout the Bible, punishments were different for different sins, implying some were worse than others. It’s true that any one sin makes us fall short of the glory of God, but that no sin is bigger than another is a lie.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:33 am to Eli Goldfinger
What they say:
What I hear:
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The Commission on a Way Forward was proposed by the Council of Bishops and approved by the 2016 General Conference to do a complete examination and possible revision of every paragraph of the Book of Discipline concerning human sexuality
What I hear:
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The Commission on a Way Forward was proposed by the Council of Bishops and approved by the 2016 General Conference to do a complete examination and possible revision of every paragraph of the Bible concerning human sexuality...
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