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Unions Suck....United Pilots get a 40% Salary increase

Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3396 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:23 pm
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Who the hell gets a 40% raise in one swoop or that a guy on a rookie contract...LOL.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 11:48 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10970 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:28 pm to
Why stand up to unions when you can let yourself go bankrupt knowing the gov will come bail you out?
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13233 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:30 pm to
Article says United.


That being said I’m not a fan of unions but when it comes to a fricking airplane I’m all for paying the experienced guys whatever it takes to keep them on the payroll.
This post was edited on 7/17/23 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1331 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:36 pm to
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Article says United.


That being said I’m not a fan of unions but when it comes to a fricking airplane I’m all for paying the experienced whatever it takes to keep them on the payroll.


Transport aircraft are more automated than ever. The job of an airline pilot has gotten easier and easier yet they demand more and more pay.

Ryan Air has a better safety record than any major US airline and they certainly don't pay their pilots like royalty. Higher compensation does not equal safer pilots.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
11883 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:42 pm to
Airline ticket prices…

Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3396 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:49 pm to
I changed it to United.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13233 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:52 pm to
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Transport aircraft are more automated than ever. The job of an airline pilot has gotten easier and easier yet they demand more and more pay.


Tractors drive themselves now and are more automated than ever(and people still mess stuff up) that doesn’t mean I’m gonna put just anybody on one. You still need people who know what to do when the automated stuff malfunctions
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 11:56 pm to
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Unions Suck....United Pilots get a 40% Salary increase



Umm. You see people that fly airplanes getting a pay raise and you think "by god that really sucks!" ??

Holy race to the bottom, batman.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1331 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:00 am to
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Tractors drive themselves now and are more automated than ever(and people still mess stuff up) that doesn’t mean I’m gonna put just anybody on one. You still need people who know what to do when the automated stuff malfunctions


I didn't say we should put unqualified people in the flight decks. Airlines outside of the US have just as qualified of pilots (at least first world nations) as the US but they are paid a far more reasonable salary. Canada has the same qualifications as the US but their pilots are not paid anywhere near as much as US pilots. You don't see Air Canada, Westjet, and Porter planes falling out of the sky.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 12:03 am
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:09 am to


Unions are a necessary evil, just like corporations. Fly United or fly Diversity airlines, buckle up.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1331 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:25 am to
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Unions are a necessary evil, just like corporations. Fly United or fly Diversity airlines, buckle up


Unions are not necessary at all. They only exist because of legislation that continues to be fostered by liberals. Unionswould never be tolerated in a free market.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67740 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:31 am to
They want to get what they can before the AI takes their jobs.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1712 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:36 am to
"cartel-ing" the supply of anything to control the price will never result in the most efficient delivery of goods and services.

Not sure why we assign an emotional "yes" to this process when it involves labor.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3262 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:40 am to
Well, it isn’t in one “swoop” according to the article. Only 13-18% immediately. Rest over several years.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:47 am to

A free market has never existed on this planet.

Trading guilds have been around for a very long time.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 12:54 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67740 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:49 am to
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A free market has never existed on this planet


The airline is free to walk away from the demand.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141785 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 12:57 am to
Airplane pilots are the one field where I favor diversity over merit
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67740 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:02 am to
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Airplane pilots are the one field where I favor diversity over merit





And I would favor the AI over DEI.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 1:03 am to
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The airline is free to walk away from the demand.


So True...as for me, I will pay the extra 20 bucks for a union pilot.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 1:06 am
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17938 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:06 am to
You so jealous lol
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