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re: Unarmed blacks are 5x more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by cop

Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:09 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:09 am to
You are certainly unhinged.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:11 am to
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RidiculousHype

Wow all that fricking text when all you could have said is "I don't have sympathy for black poeople and I think they are criminals who get what they deseve" jesus christ you are a delusional little frick. Good job completley ignoring and twisting my stats. You fricking moron. It's racist because clearly, by all evidence shown, they are killed in far higher porportions, but you look for justificarions rather than a solution to the problem. That's why it's racist. You don't actually give af about changing. You're trying to say everything is fine. It's not. Go talk to a few black people. It's healthy for you. They don't bite.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:16 am to
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You are certainly unhinged.

At least I have a life tho. 25 posts a day for 8 years what a fricking sad human being you are.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:18 am to
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the808bass

This is your safe space tho I get it. You don't have the balls to say what you actually feel on normal social media cause you'd get dragged for exposing your ignorance. Enjoy your safe space snowflake.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16521 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:19 am to
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It's racist because clearly, by all evidence shown, they are killed in far higher porportions


I'm not certain this is true. Can you link all of the evidence?
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:22 am to
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BayouBlitz


prog filth
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:25 am to
But is it white lightning?
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:25 am to
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I'm not certain this is true. Can you link all of the evidence?

frick off troll. You know the stats or you've purposefully hidden yourself from it. I'm not gonna entertain this shite anymore.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16521 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:30 am to
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frick off troll. You know the stats or you've purposefully hidden yourself from it. I'm not gonna entertain this shite anymore.


I'll take that as a "No"
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:09 pm to
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I'll take that as a "No

Here's a question for you. How many links would it take for you to actually open your mind and not try to look for some bs justification to keep your beliefs? Cause i could spam you with about 1,000 of them, but i doubt it would do any good for someone like you because you've probably made up your mind. To be asking for links on that topic means you are absurdly ignorant to the point of doing it purposefully or trolling. Which is it?
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16521 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Here's a question for you. How many links would it take for you to actually open your mind and not try to look for some bs justification to keep your beliefs? Cause i could spam you with about 1,000 of them, but i doubt it would do any good for someone like you because you've probably made up your mind. To be asking for links on that topic means you are absurdly ignorant to the point of doing it purposefully or trolling. Which is it?


It should be easy enough to link a couple of there are 1000
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:26 pm to
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It should be easy enough to link a couple of there are 1000
Troll. Thank you for confiming.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16521 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Troll. Thank you for confiming.



I didn't think you could back it
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21713 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Unarmed blacks are 5x more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by cop


I'm guessing you used math to reach this conclusion?

I hope you realize that math is racist.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 12:49 pm to
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I didn't think you could back it

Troll doing much trolling.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 1:01 pm to
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Unarmed blacks are 5x more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by cop
By my calculations, about 60 unarmed blacks are STRUCK by lighting every year (assuming the get struck at the same rate of everbody else) and 24 unarmed blacks are killed every year by cops (shooting and otherwise since about 1/8 are killed by something other than a gun). So that's 2.5 times more likely to be struck (not killed) by lightning than killed by cops.


Regardless, the more important comparison is how much more likely is an unarmed black likely to be killed by police than some other race/group. For example, roughly 24 unarmed blacks are killed each year compared to 30 unarmed whites; however, since blacks represent about 13.4% of the population and whites represent about 76.5% of the population, which means the odds of black being killed AND unarmed is 4.6 times greater than the odds of being killed AND unarmed.

Furthemore, looking at the sample of police shootings fatalities of unarmed individuals (109 for blacks; 138 for whites) out of the sample of all police shooting fatalities (1265 blacks; 2416 whites), black fatalties were 1.6 times more likely to be unarmed than whites.

So altogether, since unarmed blacks are more likely to be killed compared to their share of the population AND more likely to be killed compared to their share of fatalities than whites (and overall), then this clearly says more about unarmed black fatalities than a comparison to some other cause of death that aren't directly caused by a represenative of the government.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10213 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Wow all that fricking text when all you could have said is "I don't have sympathy for black poeople and I think they are criminals who get what they deseve"

Why would I say something I don't believe?

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jesus christ you are a delusional little frick.

What is delusional about statistics? Why do statistics make you lose emotional control and resort to profanity and name calling?

You are obviously reading things into my posts that simply aren't there. Tell me exactly where my logic is wrong. Be specific.

1) A person being struck by lightning is extremely rare. Agree?
2) An unarmed black person being killed by the police is even more rare. Agree?
3) Therefore, an unarmed black person being killed by the police is more rare than something that we consider "extremely rare". Agree?

So if something happens even less than an "extremely rare" event, why are some calling it a widespread problem?


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Go talk to a few black people.

Funny you say that...just heard from my friend Officer Brandon Tatum...
quote:

There's about 44 million African Americans in this country

Last year 245 were killed by cops. 9 were unarmed.

If my math is correct that’s 0.000006%, literally

What are yall even doing at this point?
12:48 PM · Jun 1, 2020

LINK


Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10213 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:23 pm to
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By my calculations, about 60 unarmed blacks are STRUCK by lighting every year (assuming the get struck at the same rate of everbody else) and 24 unarmed blacks are killed every year by cops (shooting and otherwise since about 1/8 are killed by something other than a gun). So that's 2.5 times more likely to be struck (not killed) by lightning than killed by cops.


Our math is very similar. Based on the national reaction ("We have a widespread problem that demands major fundamental change"), do these numbers surprise you?

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Regardless, the more important comparison is how much more likely is an unarmed black likely to be killed by police than some other race/group. For example, roughly 24 unarmed blacks are killed each year compared to 30 unarmed whites; however, since blacks represent about 13.4% of the population and whites represent about 76.5% of the population, which means the odds of black being killed AND unarmed is 4.6 times greater than the odds of being killed AND unarmed.

Furthemore, looking at the sample of police shootings fatalities of unarmed individuals (109 for blacks; 138 for whites) out of the sample of all police shooting fatalities (1265 blacks; 2416 whites), black fatalties were 1.6 times more likely to be unarmed than whites.

So altogether, since unarmed blacks are more likely to be killed compared to their share of the population AND more likely to be killed compared to their share of fatalities than whites (and overall), then this clearly says more about unarmed black fatalities than a comparison to some other cause of death that aren't directly caused by a represenative of the government.



It is true that more unarmed blacks are killed by cops than unarmed whites, proportional to their respective populations. That fact alone doesn't mean we have a major, widespread problem because it's possible (notice I didn't say "certain") that many of those shootings were justified/self-defense. We know blacks commit crimes at a higher rate, so it's possible that the disparity is attributable to cases where cops are defending themselves.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 5:15 pm
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