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re: Ukrainians have now attacked a second critical Russian nuclear early warning radar.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:55 am to texag7
Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:55 am to texag7
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What real doctor has time to follow Ukraine every hour of the week.
I'm on the throne right now after rounds. I'll be sure to update you on what I'm doing later.
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Posted on 6/17/24 at 9:57 am to SDVTiger
Nah
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:00 am to crazy4lsu
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You realize this is the Russian position, correct?
The same Russians proposing peacetalks? You're obviously entitled to your own opinion, but not your own created facts.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:02 am to NC_Tigah
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The same Russians proposing peacetalks? You're obviously entitled to your own opinion, but not your own created facts.
This is always hilarious.
Oh the peaceful Russia.
1. Invade a sovereign country
2. Get pushed back and then stuck in a quagmire
3. Offer “peace” which involves getting everything they want without having to continue fighting
4. Become the good guy in the eyes of the poli board.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:02 am to NC_Tigah
The peace terms they offer show they are not serious. They haven't changed in 3 years and include stipulations which no country will ever agree. And regardless, does it look like the Russian government is preparing for, given their long term spending plans.
The next two to four decades are going to be defined by this conflict, regardless of what actually occurs on the battlefield. Both sides are not preparing for peace.
The next two to four decades are going to be defined by this conflict, regardless of what actually occurs on the battlefield. Both sides are not preparing for peace.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:03 am to crazy4lsu
Ya
Its well.documented on here
Its well.documented on here
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:13 am to Adam Banks
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This is always hilarious. Oh the peaceful Russia. 1. Invade a sovereign country 2. Get pushed back and then stuck in a quagmire 3. Offer “peace” which involves getting everything they want without having to continue fighting 4. Become the good guy in the eyes of the poli board.
Exactly right. Russia didn’t start anything. They just react to perceived threats by invading their neighbors just because. That is the BS they spread here.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:22 am to Adam Banks
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Oh the peaceful Russia.
Russia is not "peaceful".
However, by comparison to the US? You seriously want to go there?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:26 am to NC_Tigah
Love it or leave it.
Why do you hate America?
Why do you hate America?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:28 am to Adam Banks
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Why do you hate America?
People who hate America are always dragging it into foreign conflicts that have little do to with us.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:29 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Refusal to dialogue is about as unserious as it comes. You say you are not into blood lust. Define victory for Ukraine, because you seem to support the Potatobrain approach and the steaming manure pile it created. Though they won't admit it, Potatobrain's Administration would define victory as perpetual war using Ukraine fodder to drain Russia of blood and treasure.
The peace terms they offer show they are not serious.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:31 am to Adam Banks
quote:I don't. I do think we have very real problems. Why do you hate truth?
Why do you hate America?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:34 am to doubleb
quote:Whose example should they follow?
They just react to perceived threats by invading their neighbors just because.
Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, and others want to know.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:37 am to NC_Tigah
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I don't. I do think we have very real problems.
We cant mess with problems here, Ukraine needs artillery shells.
The Ukraine Firsters are running shite.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:41 am to NC_Tigah
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Russia is not "peaceful".
Correct
quote:
However, by comparison to the US? You seriously want to go there?
So Russia has a legitimate reason to invade Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine because the US is bad? They have a blank check to do as they wish?
Russia had been militaristic for years. They have been attacking, defending, and warring with nations on all their borders. It can’t be just bad luck and you can’t blame the US because we weren’t involved in starting all these wars.
Russia had options besides war. As late as December of 2021 they rejected a treaty keeping Ukraine out of NATO. They chose war. Blaming the US for their bad choice is nonsense.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:50 am to doubleb
quote:100%
So Russia has a legitimate reason to invade ... Georgia, Crimea
quote:No.
They have a blank check to do as they wish?
quote:We've stayed busy with our own. However, we are talking about Ukraine in this instance. Sans US meddling and the NATO threat, Ukraine would be at peace and intact today.
It can’t be just bad luck and you can’t blame the US because we weren’t involved in starting all these wars.
quote:After Minsk and with the join NATO engine running wide-open, Ukraine would not have been believable even if such a treaty had been in the offing.
As late as December of 2021 they rejected a treaty keeping Ukraine out of NATO
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:52 am to doubleb
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So Russia has a legitimate reason to invade Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine because the US is bad?
Why
Are
We
Involved?
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:57 am to SDVTiger
Nah
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:57 am to doubleb
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Russia had options besides war.
Dont care.
So did we. Now look at us, we're involved.
Posted on 6/17/24 at 10:59 am to doubleb
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That is the BS they spread here.
Which has nothing to do with us.
Why do you want us involved?
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