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re: Ukrainian oligarch raided by FBI in Miami and Cleveland has close ties to Hunter Biden

Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22273 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

It wasn’t a hoax at all. Trumpers just didn’t care about what he did.





I cared. I absolutely support the President's efforts to root out the pay-for-play that was the order of the day in the Obama administration. If there were any actual accusations of wrong-doing by the Trump administration I would support rooting them out as well. Trump was impeached for fighting corruption. The Dems are corruption.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by thotpocket
Dana Point, CA
Member since Sep 2017
2600 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:14 pm to
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It wasn’t a hoax at all. Trumpers just didn’t care about what he did.


Imagine being so left that you don't even try to disguise your blatant hypocrisy.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:24 pm to
Where’d you go you little pussy?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:27 pm to
It’s a shame we can’t have a civil discussion on here.
Posted by thotpocket
Dana Point, CA
Member since Sep 2017
2600 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:30 pm to
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It’s a shame we can’t have a civil discussion on here.


It'd be a lot easier if you simply admitted your blatant hypocrisies regarding all things left & right on the political spectrum.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:31 pm to
No such thing with people like you
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:33 pm to
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No such thing with people like you



I debate and argue with many on this board, but I try to always keep things civil and respectful.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:38 pm to
You’re a hypocritical, disingenuous POS
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23066 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:44 pm to
Annnd there you go again. Have a nice day bud.
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
1921 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:15 pm to
Serious question since you claim to be open to "discussion."

Did Vice President Joe Biden tell a bunch of glad handers at a rubber chicken dinner that he told the President of Ukraine that unless the prosecutor investigating his son was fired that Biden would withhold $1B in loan guarantees.


Yes or no.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:19 pm to


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About as good as the "Biden Ukraine Investigation"


Impeachment is over and was an utter failure
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:21 pm to
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It’s very important to understand both parties are getting rich from Burisma.


Throughout human history the struggle has been governments vs people.

America's citizens are asleep at the wheel.

The "two party" American system has consolidated power to itself and successfully is crushing any true competition.

We desperately need a viable third party.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:22 pm to
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We desperately need a viable third party.


TRUMP is the third party!
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:42 pm to
Now all of a sudden he doesn’t want to have a civil discussion
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:47 pm to
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TRUMP is the third party!


He’s not. He’s a classic democrat who decided to stick it to his old friends by switching parties and crushing them, but he’s not a third party.

Trump is a republican. He ran as a republican and he won as a republican. All the money he raises and grass roots efforts he sprouts up for now are RNC owned and controlled. It would be great if this was some kind of movement for a common sense centrist party. Maybe it is. But we’re not there yet.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:48 pm to
When the Rinos AND left hate him.....
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:58 pm to
This old coot was forced on Obama, not supported by Obama, at least until he had too.

Biden is the 2020 Walter Mondale and much less qualified if asked.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:09 pm to
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When the Rinos AND left hate him.....


I understand, but he’s still a republican.

We need a third party. One not connected to decades of corruption and power and backdoor friendships and media driven propaganda, etc..

We also desperately need a return to paying attention to local and State politics. Look at the last governors election in Louisiana, we talked more about what federal candidates the governors candidates supported and which national party principles they held than we did about their actual plans and ties to the state. That’s insane. There’s absolutely no reason we should be voting for local politicians based on their federal government party affiliation.

I’d bet my left nut 90% of the country can’t name their state legislative reps.

America was founded on the idea of 50 states with their own local and state governments. There is a federal government for interstate disputes and National defense and foreign relations. The states are supposed to keep the federal government in check.

America in 2020 has a two party federal system that controls every single level of government. It’s dangerous and it’s incompatible with the founding principles of America. At some point we either have to redistribute the power from the feds back to the states or the feds will crush us below their feet.

Repealing the 17th amendment and a massive rejuvenating of local politics is a start.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 8:10 pm
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