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re: Ukraine is not abiding by the Geneva convention.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:21 pm to C
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:21 pm to C
You're probably right....but if the shoe was on the other foot and Russia was being invaded by a superior military power that was intent on marching their troops into Moscow, don't think for a second that the Russians wouldn't violate the Geneva rules, up to and including the use of nukes.
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:21 pm to RollingwiththeTide
Did Ukraine declare war?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:22 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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Women and children should never be targets of indiscriminate shelling or air strikes.
Women amd kids have arms too. I have seen pictures of them being touted as heros defending year country.
Urban warfare socks.
I pray for them all.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:23 pm to RollingwiththeTide
quote:So set your defenses among women and children and you can never be invaded
Women and children should never be targets of indiscriminate shelling or air strikes.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:24 pm to CamdenTiger
They are the country that has been invaded. Russia violated Ukrainian sovereignty. Not sure why a declaration of war would matter.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:25 pm to SubZereaux
The US fire bombed Tokyo.
The Brits fire bombed Dresden.
The US carpet bombed/arc lighted the Vietnamese.
The US used FAEs and cluster bombs in Iraq.
And that’s just a sampling of the good guys.
Need I go into the use of gas by all sides in WWI?
Compared to the above examples, Russian strikes have been relatively surgical.
Best thing from a humane aspect would only include two options: Russia go home or Ukraine give up.
The Brits fire bombed Dresden.
The US carpet bombed/arc lighted the Vietnamese.
The US used FAEs and cluster bombs in Iraq.
And that’s just a sampling of the good guys.
Need I go into the use of gas by all sides in WWI?
Compared to the above examples, Russian strikes have been relatively surgical.
Best thing from a humane aspect would only include two options: Russia go home or Ukraine give up.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:26 pm to C
What's your solution, C?
We disqualify them from war and hand over the country to Putin?
We disqualify them from war and hand over the country to Putin?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:27 pm to ksayetiger
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If you give civilians arms, there are no civilians.
They become an organized militia and are protected by the Conventions, different protections than civilians but they are still under the convention.
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Russia isn't wrong for targeting residential areas if everyone is potentially armed- kids and grandma's alike
That is BS they are using disproportionate force, and Russia has been wrong since the initial attack, it is aggressive war and they are criminals even if they don't violate specific targeting rules.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:30 pm to C
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They are placing arms in sensitive residential and public areas to force Russians to make a decision on collateral damage.
Russia does not have shell the Ukrainian cities. It could just pack up and return to Russia.
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They are using kids as soldiers.
A bullet from a 14-year-old is just as effective as one from a 40-year-old. Often more effective.
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frick Russia but Ukraine should not be applauded for the way they are fighting.
1. All is fair in love and war.
2. Boo freaking hoo the Ukrainians are not fighting the way the mentally unstable midget thought they would.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:39 pm to Gaggle
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History is written by the victors. There have never been any good guys. The rules have always been broken by everyone
Nail on the head.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:37 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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That is BS they are using disproportionate force
Well...isn't that how you win a war?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:40 pm to C
youre an idiot
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:51 pm to C
quote:There is evidence of murder from russian forces, there is evidence of war crimes and there is evidence of bombing of civilian targets early in the conflict. fu
They are placing arms in sensitive residential and public areas to force Russians to make a decision on collateral damage.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:51 pm to DMAN1968
If there is anything I learned about combat it’s that war is not about a fair fight and there is no such thing as disproportionate.
You’re in it to win it or you’re a politician who has no hide on the line.
You’re in it to win it or you’re a politician who has no hide on the line.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:51 pm to DMAN1968
The thread is about the law of war. Again the special military operation is a crime. But disproportionate force is a targeting violation. Taking down blocks of undefended flats is a crime.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:54 pm to C
Is crazy how so many here suddenly trust MSM.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:55 pm to C
Turley mentioned that last week.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:03 pm to CarrolltonTiger
Two things all war and combat have in common are chaos and fear. It drives the immediate conflict.
As to laws of war, war crimes, etc. that is dictated by the countries, regimes in control of the fighting.
Japan and the Nazis are good examples of notorious violators. But there is truly no civil way to conduct a war Cruelty is the nature of war. It is why wars are avoided at all costs.
As to laws of war, war crimes, etc. that is dictated by the countries, regimes in control of the fighting.
Japan and the Nazis are good examples of notorious violators. But there is truly no civil way to conduct a war Cruelty is the nature of war. It is why wars are avoided at all costs.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:06 pm to C
The Geneva Convention is asinine to be honest.
We were using aerosol bombs on the Taliban and ISIS you know. Also known as thermobaric bombs. Also banned.
LOL
We were using aerosol bombs on the Taliban and ISIS you know. Also known as thermobaric bombs. Also banned.
LOL
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:08 pm to THog
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Is crazy how so many here suddenly trust MSM.
A guy called 60 Minutes propaganda the other night and got downvoted.
This place is turned upside down.
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