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Ukraine eyes an offensive around Bakhmut, as Russian momentum stalls

Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:24 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65127 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:24 am
This after a story was posted here two days ago that Bakhmut had fallen and that 10,000 Ukrainians were trapped in the city.


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Russian forces are depleted in Bakhmut and a Ukrainian counter-offensive could soon be launched, one of Kyiv’s top generals has said, raising the prospect of an unlikely turnaround in the besieged city.

Oleksandr Syrskyi, the commander of Ukraine’s land forces, said on his Telegram channel Thursday that “[Russians] are losing significant forces [in Bakhmut] and are running out of energy.”

“Very soon, we will take advantage of this opportunity, as we did in the past near Kyiv, Kharkiv, Balakliya and Kupyansk,” he said.

His comments come days after Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky made a surprise trip to the front lines of the Donetsk region, and will raise hopes in the West that Kyiv’s contentious decision to keep troops in Bakhmut will pay dividends.



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The optimism of land forces commander Syrskyi reflected a Wednesday update from the the Ukrainian military’s General Staff, which said in a statement that while Bakhmut is still expected to see heavy fighting, Russia’s “offensive potential is decreasing” there.

“The enemy keeps trying to take the city, losing a significant amount of manpower, weapons and military equipment,” it said on Wednesday.

Western intelligence strikes a similar tone. “The tempo of Russian operations around Bakhmut appears to be slowing,” the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) think tank wrote in its Wednesday update on the conflict.

But that shift may also indicate a change in Russia’s priorities. “There is a realistic possibility that the Russian assault on the town is losing the limited momentum it had obtained, partially because some Russian MoD units have been reallocated to other sectors,” the British Ministry of Defence said Wednesday.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:27 am to
Throw moar money at it!
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2146 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:31 am to
I don't believe any claims made by both Ukrainians and Americans
Posted by TomShelby
Member since Mar 2023
789 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:33 am to
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one of Kyiv’s top generals has said,


The most trusted of sources
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6851 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 7:43 am to
No one really knows what's going on in Ukraine, but in a war of attrition, the side with the most stuff/soldiers win. It's inevitable.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22401 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:30 am to
But jjGoebbells told us that Bakhmut had fallen?


What a liar!

Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45292 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Oleksandr Syrskyi, the commander of Ukraine’s land forces, said on his Telegram channel

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update from the the Ukrainian military’s General Staff

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Institute for the Study of War (ISW)

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British Ministry of Defence


None of these are valid, independent sources of information on this conflict.

The British MoD is especially bad. The Ukrainian government sources are actually more legitimate than the British.

But a planned offensive is coming, probably around May.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
7850 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:52 am to
Summon the Money Printer at once!
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2138 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Kyiv’s
Kiev's
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12074 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:54 am to
Both are accurate…
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8181 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:19 am to
If it is pro Russian propaganda expect to get downvotes
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5246 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Russian forces are depleted in Bakhmut and a Ukrainian counter-offensive could soon be launched, one of Kyiv’s top generals has said


Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12202 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:31 am to
I don't believe either side.

I do know of a town in Belgium named Bastogne that was encircled by superior forces.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15328 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:48 am to
Here is the link to the CNN article he posted. Apparently the retarded OP was too embarrassed to link the article.


LINK
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11716 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 9:55 am to
Is this you?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12074 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:03 am to
Wagner telegram channels have been discussing the buildup of ukrainians for a counter offensive for a few weeks now.

Wether it will happen or be effective, who the hell knows. But it is being reported by multiple sources.

Not sure why some posters here are allergic to knowing whats actually going on.
Posted by DawgRebelinAL
Confederate States
Member since Feb 2022
524 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:30 am to
Not sure how this is going to work: there are no roads leading into Bakhmut that aren't either captured or under indirect fire from the Russians. The whole place is ranged by Russian artillery.

Meanwhile, while the Ukes throw 19 brigades at Bakhmut, the Russians are pinching off another salient at Avdiivka to the south.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:34 am to
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I don't believe any claims made by both Ukrainians and Americans


But you believe Putin. Reagan us rolling in his grave.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16599 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:58 am to
Bakhmut is done. Only thing saving it is lack of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians being trapped there. Ukraine is considered sending 80,000 ground troops for their offensive. All while Russia is being in tanks by rail. Trench warfare with soldiers vs tanks and other armaments isn’t a very good situation for the young soldiers of Ukraine. That is the reality.

For the love of all that is Holy stop reading American media about the war. Use Google translate and visit some foreign news sites for better takes of what is really going on there. Russia has minimal ground soldiers in Ukraine. Ukrainian youth that are being called up are making it to the border and paying $5k to cross into other countries. Some are refusing to even be sent to the Donbas. Only thing that will turn this around from a slow grind of Russia destroying all of Ukraine is NATO/US boots on the ground.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2515 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:01 am to
remember how the Ukraine fanboys said Bakhmut didn't matter at all. that the Wagner penal regiment is wasting bodies for nothing.

now they are talking about Ukraine launching an massive offensive in Bakhmut. how embarrassing, a PMC that recruits mainly untrained prisoners needs this much military focus.

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