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UK court orders forced abortion for disabled Catholic woman
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:47 pm
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London, England, Jun 21, 2019 / 11:15 am (CNA).- A British judge has authorized doctors to perform an abortion on a pregnant Catholic woman with developmental disabilities and a mood disorder, despite the objections of the woman’s mother and the woman herself. The woman is 22 weeks pregnant.
“I am acutely conscious of the fact that for the State to order a woman to have a termination where it appears that she doesn't want it is an immense intrusion,” said Justice Nathalie Lieven in her ruling in the Court of Protection, June 21.
“I have to operate in [her] best interests, not on society's views of termination,” Lieven explained, arguing that her decision is in the best interest of the woman.
The Court of Protection handles cases involving individuals judged to lack the mental capacity to make decisions for themselves.
The woman, who cannot been publicly identified, has been described as “in her twenties,” and is under the care of an NHS trust, part of the UK’s National Health Service.
Doctors at the trust wished to abort her pregnancy and argued that, due to her diminished mental capacity, the abortion would be less traumatic for the woman than giving birth, especially if the baby would then be placed in foster care.
The woman’s mother made clear to doctors and the court that she would assume care of her grandchild.
The woman is believed to have the mental capacity of a grade school-age child. She is reportedly Catholic, and her mother is Nigerian.
It is unknown if the pregnancy was conceived consensually, and police are investigating the circumstances of conception.
The woman’s mother, reported to be a former midwife, registered her absolute opposition to the abortion citing the Catholic faith of herself and her daughter. A social worker who cares for the woman also disagreed that she should be forced to have an abortion.
The judge said she did not believe the woman understood what it meant to have a baby.
“I think she would like to have a baby in the same way she would like to have a nice doll,” Lieven said.
Lieven also said she did not believe the woman's mother, who already helps care for her daughter, would be able to offer care for a grandchild at the same time.
Allowing the child to be born and then removed from the woman’s home and placed into foster care or adoption would be against the woman’s own interests, the judge concluded.
“I think [the woman] would suffer greater trauma from having a baby removed [from her care],” Lieven said, because “it would at that stage be a real baby.”
Lieven clarified that the pregnancy “although real to [the woman], doesn’t have a baby outside her body she can touch.”
As a lawyer, Lieven has appeared in court before in cases concerning abortion. In 2011, while representing the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, an abortion provider, she argued that British women should be permitted to medically abort their pregnancies at their own homes instead of in a hospital.
Five years later, Lieven argued in court that Northern Ireland’s abortion laws were a violation of the United Kingdom’s Human Rights Act.
In 2017, she said that Northern Ireland’s abortion laws were akin to torture and were discriminatory.
Unrestricted abortion is legal in the UK until 24 weeks of pregnancy, after which doctors must certify that the abortion is in the medical interests of the mother.
NHS statistics show babies born at 24 weeks have a 50% chance of survival on average, though the rate depends on the NHS trust providing care. Babies born in a University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust hospital in London at 23 weeks of gestation have a 70% chance of survival.
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This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:51 pm to RebelExpress38
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She is reportedly Catholic, and her mother is Nigerian.
Socialized medicine loves killing black babies.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:54 pm to RebelExpress38
I think that judge just likes having babies killed. Power trip
Posted on 6/22/19 at 5:56 pm to RebelExpress38
Josef Mengele approves.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:11 pm to RebelExpress38
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mental capacity of a grade school-age child
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unknown if the pregnancy was conceived consensually,
This story has so many levels of fricked-up ness
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:15 pm to RebelExpress38
The Judge is a grandiose dope
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:20 pm to RebelExpress38
Isn’t this a German woman?
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:33 pm to RebelExpress38
That's some ripe old gub'ment bs right there. Forced abortions.
The mom was probably happy when her daughter became pregnant, because she probably thought with her daughter's disability, it would be impossible for her to give her a grandbaby.
The mom was probably happy when her daughter became pregnant, because she probably thought with her daughter's disability, it would be impossible for her to give her a grandbaby.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 6:42 pm to Plx1776
I wish they could get inside the US embassy and seek asylum.
Unfortunately she's probably in NHS custody, and even if she can hide long enough to deliver, the baby would still be murdered.
Unfortunately she's probably in NHS custody, and even if she can hide long enough to deliver, the baby would still be murdered.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 7:23 pm to RebelExpress38
I have no words. Just sadness.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:01 pm to Paluka
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have no words. Just sadness
Trully. This is the progressive utopia. Never mind what the woman thinks, never mind what her mother thinks, never mind her religious veiws, we are going to murder your baby becsuse we say so. UK has gone down the abyss.
Posted on 6/22/19 at 8:22 pm to Paluka
Sadness is an Understatement . We've a grandmother begging to take care of the baby, begging the gov for permission for her daughter to give birth..and the gov saying they'd rather kill the baby.
This kind of authoritarian shite pisses me off. That gov has decided that, that woman will never be given permission to give birth. When one has to beg the gov for the right to give birth, something is royally fricked up in their country.
This kind of authoritarian shite pisses me off. That gov has decided that, that woman will never be given permission to give birth. When one has to beg the gov for the right to give birth, something is royally fricked up in their country.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:03 am to RebelExpress38
Socialized medicine: Where the government decides who lives and who dies. Medicare for all! What could go wrong?
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:03 am to RebelExpress38
dp
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 8:04 am
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:08 am to RebelExpress38
Lot of crickets from the "pro women's reproductive rights" crowd.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:53 am to RebelExpress38
They've exchanged being ruled by a landed aristocracy that thinks it knows best for being ruled by a heartless bureaucracy that thinks it knows best.
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