re: Tyler Robinson used regular ole cheap Remington soft point ammo

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bullshite its 140 yards. Thats not some miracle length shot

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You are now arguing with my point instead of against it.
Most of the yokels here hunt in SE America where the average shot is less than 1/2 of 140 yards. Sure, non-bonded bullets will break through bone much easier at 50-70 yards, but to take that anecdotal evidence to say, all shots will pass through is stupid. The bullet has already lost 300-400 fps in just that distance the shot on CK was.

But you said something about pass through being easier due to lack of energy for mushrooming to counter my first statement. A non-bonded bullet, as was used, will expand at 140 yards, easily.

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Look I'm not arguing against who shot ck or what they used I'm arguing against the claim that expanding hunting rounds like core lokt fragment and dont produce an exit wound.

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They can and will, but the very nature of a non-bonded bullet also says they may not, especially if they hit bone out past 100 yards. For many SE hunters, a 100 yard shot is not a common shot at all unless it is on a bench.

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It's 100% possible you could make that same shot with a 7mm rem mag and it not exit. Highly unlikely but possible.

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7mmPRC was my elk rifle when I lived in Utah (I loved that rifle). I had a 7mm Mag prior. I never used non-bonded bullets in either, but the increased BC of a 7mm over a 30cal says that the 7mm should penetrate deeper and have a greater chance of a through shot.

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That’s harder to sell. Even if it hit cervical vertebrae, which also have a small diameter.

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But are still bone and very hard.

Not to mention the disc material is literally a shock absorber.

Since the ME already confirmed this, why is it a problem?

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So many of the so called TD.com ballistics experts have been wrong and parroting bullshite for months

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They're just repeating what the woke right JOOtard podcast bros, and Candace, are telling them.

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Question it all you wish, but the average shot taken on game, in the southeastern states is 50-70 yards. Sure some hunt over bean fields or powerlines and get a longer shot, but the average hunter never gets a shot over 75 yards. The woods are that thick in the SE. I still hunt Louisiana every year on my family lease. My longest shot ever in Louisiana was about 75 yards made with a Ruger .44 mag carbine.

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Do you use Remington core-lokt because everyone I have shot I have retrieved the expanded bullet from the inside of the carcass. 0 exit wounds.

This past year I shot a 100 lb doe at 30 yds. You would think you'd find an exit wound but nope. I still have the bullet sitting in my truck.

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Every single one? I shoot deer with a 30-06 core-lokt regularly and some come out, some don't. If you are always finding the complete bullet, you need to aim a few inches back and stop hitting the shoulder plate

Tyler should have stayed home that day with his boyfriend.

He would have been a lot more happy in the long run.

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Once a bullet hits anything - I won't say all bets are off, but most are. Bullets can do unpredictable things and contact with any intermediate obstacle has the potential to drastically alter terminal ballistics.

I honestly did not think that would be a radical statement akin to endorsing the "magic bullet" theory (which I do not) in 2026.

#Shocked

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I shot Remington years ago and they always seemed to leave an exit unless they hit bone.

I switched to Barnes TTSX and it is a really lethal round. Very flat shooting out to 350 yards. It is the best round in my usual rifle (Browning A bolt GM in 30-06).

My son has an A bolt in .270 and it doesnt shoot Barnes as well, he runs Nosler Trophy Grade.

But I doubt Robinson ran a bunch of different brands through his rifle. At 150 yards any bullet from a 30-06 will kill. Its not like he was shooting 1500 yards.

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While fmj will retain shape and pass through without as much damage, expanding ammo like core lokt are designed to expand and retain most all of its weight while doing it without fragmentation.

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I captured a 125 pointed soft point many years ago after hitting a rib a little far back on a young buck. The inside of that deer looked like a bomb went off but there was no exit. Just a small entry hole that had a spurt of blood just like you see on Charlie. I cleaned the deer, Gathered the fragments I found and weighed them. They came in at 85% held together in the biggest fragment. Nice mushroom. Deer fell down dead on the spot.

Mushrooms slow down bullets. That's the point. You are transferring potential energy into tissue damage and shock. Blowing a hole out the other side of the target means you did NOT transfer all the energy that bullet had to the target.

Heavier weight bullets will depend on velocity whether they are more or less likely to penetrate through. Remember Velocity is squared in the equation so that's the big one.

Full Metal Jackets are designed to blow holes in people. They can also be stopped if they hit something hard like the inside joint of a vertabre because of the angles of the hard bone. It gets deflected.

Most of the time, a 30-06 will blow a hole right through a human sized target, but they get stopped regularly. I've seen it at least a half dozen times myself on deer that I killed. The people saying 90% of the time are not far off in my own experience, but that doesn't change the facts. They get stopped regularly. It happens. It happened here. Deal with it. It's a fact.

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It's 100% possible you could make that same shot with a 7mm rem mag and it not exit. Highly unlikely but possible.

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If it's the exact same shot that hits that neck vertebrae at exactly the same spot from the same angle I would almost guarantee it would do the same thing that happened to Charlie.