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Two Professors Have a Great Idea to Show How Terrible Trump is, it backfires

Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by anc
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:34 pm
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Two professors, one from INSEAD and one from New York University, put together Her Opponent, a re-enactment of the Trump-Clinton debates with the genders reversed—the Donald Trump role was played by Rachel Whorton and the Hillary Clinton role by Daryl Embry.

Salvatore said that the two started the project, NYU explains, "assuming that the gender inversion would confirm what they'd each suspected watching the real-life debates: that Trump's aggression—his tendency to interrupt and attack—would never be tolerated in a woman, and that Clinton's competence and preparedness would seem even more convincing coming from a man."

As you might already have guessed, the actual performances didn't turn out that way. Instead of confirming the professors' assumptions, the performances suggested different conclusions. The style of Brenda King, the female Donald Trump character, was attractive to many of the audience members who assumed that Jonathan Gordon, the male Hillary Clinton character, would be even more clearly more competent than his opponent than under the original gender paradigm.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:37 pm to
For a real life example of this see the up coming election in France with Marine Le Pen.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27061 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:42 pm to
How much grant money did they get for this "study"?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:42 pm to
It's not about gender, it's about confidence in your position.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32511 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:43 pm to
Wow! So it has to do more with message than Hillary just being a shite candidate? That's really bad news for dems.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:45 pm to
Don't worry. They still found their SJW complaint:
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The Jonathon Gordon character's effeminacy also came up with some observers. Salvatore said the actor received no notes to be more effeminate in his portrayal. "I was particularly struck by the post-performance discussions about effeminacy," Salvatore said. "People felt that the male version of Clinton was feminine, and that that was bad. As a gay man who worked really hard, especially when I was younger, to erase femininity from my body—for better or worse—I found myself feeling really upset hearing those things."
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20870 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:46 pm to
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Two professors


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assuming that the gender inversion would confirm what they'd each suspected watching the real-life debates: that Trump's aggression—his tendency to interrupt and attack—would never be tolerated in a woman, and that Clinton's competence and preparedness would seem even more convincing coming from a man


Shocked.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20870 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:47 pm to
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I was particularly struck by the post-performance discussions about effeminacy," Salvatore said. "People felt that the male version of Clinton was feminine, and that that was bad. As a gay man who worked really hard, especially when I was younger, to erase femininity from my body—for better or worse—I found myself feeling really upset hearing those things."


"It's not fair that they made me feel this way".
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:48 pm to
Very interesting. I certainly found the woman to be more "credible" than I did Trump so the result don't surprise me so much. I always felt that Hilarry supporters were latent sexists because they could fathom how a woman could be more corrupt as a man in their misogynist little brains.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Salvatore said that the two started the project, NYU explains, "assuming that the gender inversion would confirm what they'd each suspected watching the real-life debates: that Trump's aggression—his tendency to interrupt and attack—would never be tolerated in a woman, and that Clinton's competence and preparedness would seem even more convincing coming from a man."


Interesting theory. I'd agree if this were 1970 (or even 1990).

But in today's culture, people would eat that shite up.

Watch the video in the link. Seriously, it gives you the impression that she is a strong woman who isn't going to let herself be bullied by a man. I can see why the "audience" liked her so much.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:50 pm to
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It's not about gender, it's about having a position.


FIFY
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Notably, a number of Clinton supporters struggled to find in Gordon what had attracted them to Clinton. Instead, they found his style grating. "Someone said that Jonathan Gordon was 'really punchable' because of all the smiling," Salvatore said. "And a lot of people were just very surprised by the way it upended their expectations about what they thought they would feel or experience."

"I was surprised by how critical I was seeing [Clinton] on a man's body," Salvatore said, "and also by the fact that I didn't find Trump's behavior on a woman to be off-putting."
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:07 pm to
Literally sexist...
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:10 pm to
so this group of clowns realized that they were literally voting for her genitalia....not her policies.

what a joke. They should all resign in shame.
Posted by KorrBG20
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
112 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:10 pm to
It just shows, people don't care about gender, they care about policy and if the candidate comes off as genuine or another BS politician
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:30 pm to
I would vote for the woman over that man too. My problem with trump is that he is just such a douche. His hair, his facial expressions, etc just bother me.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18006 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:33 pm to
His hair?

Are you kidding me? That really matters to people?

Oh yeah, Rand Paul isn't President.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27877 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:14 pm to
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As a gay man

Figures
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:17 pm to
Jesus people vote based on hair
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24735 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:33 pm to
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so this group of clowns realized that they were literally voting for her genitalia


I think it was more than that. I think they liked the idea of an alpha female who is agressive. They enjoyed their heroine.
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