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re: turkey sold 1000s of children mainly survivors of the eq in 1999 to Jeffery Epstein's isla

Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by phaz
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:08 pm to
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1000’s of children?

Sensationalized numbers like this only lead to
More skepticism. I fully believe that Epstein was a creep and that dozens of high rollers were creeps with him but I doubt 2000 kids were bought, abused, and disposed of on Epstein island.


I agree, even posting that picture as evidence in the tweet when it doesn't even mention anything remotely close to what the tweet says destroys any credibility
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:10 pm to
La Times

Always a far left rag with you
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:15 pm to
Irrelevant as usual

Would the Desert News suffice?

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Now the first empirical study of its actual prevalence, based on information from district attorneys, social service workers, police officials and psychotherapists, suggests these tales are usually just that - figments of imagination.Athough the survey found occasional cases of lone abusers who used ritualistic trappings, it found no substantiated reports of well-organized satanic rings of people who sexually abuse children.

In a survey of more than 11,000 psychiatric and police workers throughout the country, conducted for the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, researchers found more than 12,000 accusations of group cult sexual abuse based on satanic ritual, but not one that investigators had been able to substantiate. The organizers of the survey say it is the first authoritative national survey on the subject.

The Utah attorney general's office is also preparing a report on satanic abuse but, as yet, has released no details.

Accusations of molesting by cults have been made in thousands of cases over the past decade, and in retrospective claims by adult patients in psychotherapy who say they were abused as children.

Combined with sensationalistic press coverage, these lawsuits and other reports have led many people to believe that there is a nationwide network of satanic groups preying on the young.

"After scouring the country, we found no evidence for large-scale cults that sexually abuse children," said Dr. Gail Goodman, a psychologist at the University of California at Davis, who directed the survey.

"Since the McMartin preschool case there have been claims of ritualistic and sadistic child abuse in cases all over the country, and we've been concerned," said David Lloyd, director of the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect. "The survey was to see just how well-founded these concerns are - if these are just based on mistaken perceptions or there is some firm evidence."


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But Goodman said her group did find "convincing evidence of lone perpetrators or couples who say they are involved with Satan or use the claim to intimidate victims." She added that they "unearthed a few cases where there were confessions or photographs."

One of the best-documented cases, reported by a district attorney in the South, involved four boys and a girl whose grandparents are accused of molesting them from age four into early adolescence; the case came to light when the children refused to visit their grandparents. "The grandparents had black robes, candles and Christ on an inverted crucifix - and the children had chlamydia, a sexually transmitted disease, in their throats," said Goodman, citing the district attorney's report.

But the overall results show little or no support for the more extreme claims, Goodman said. "While you would not expect to find corroborating evidence in many sexual abuse cases, you would expect it when people claim the rituals involved murders, and the reported cases come from district attorneys or police," said Goodman.

"If there is anyone out there with solid evidence of satanic cult abuse of children, we would like to know about it," she said.


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Nonetheless, previous smaller studies done by the Michigan State Police, the Virginia Crime Commission and a study by the British government had similar findings.

In Britain, for example, of 80 cases where extensive, ritualized abuse was alleged, no evidence of any organized group involvement was found, although in a handful of the cases lone child molestors used "black magic" or satanic trappings to scare their victims.

Many psychotherapists who have been vocal about a supposed epidemic of sexual abuse by well-organized satanic rings have grown more cautious of late. "There's clearly been a contagion, a contamination of what people say in therapy because of what they see on TV or read about satanic ritual abuse," said Dr. Bennet Braun, a psychiatrist who heads the Dissociative Disorders Unit at Rush-North Shore Medical Center in Chicago. Braun used to lecture on ritual satanic abuse to psychotherapy groups, but stopped because of growing doubts of such abuse.


Or better yet the 1994 study itself

This post was edited on 2/2/26 at 9:18 pm
Posted by sharkfhin
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:18 pm to
This whole thread is fricking sick to read. Wtf
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:20 pm to
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This whole thread is fricking sick to read. Wtf

If you read OP, the section of the pleading doesn't even claim what OP's title claims
Posted by sharkfhin
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:22 pm to
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This whole thread is fricking sick to read. Wtf

If you read OP, the section of the pleading doesn't even claim what OP's title claims
i know but reading this shite is sickening.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:23 pm to
Just know it's all pretty much fake
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:23 pm to
Says the fakest poster on this site
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:24 pm to
Naw

I mean we have OP and the Neo Satanic Panic promoters at the very least
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:25 pm to
Turkey = Ottoman Empire

Not much changed I guess
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:25 pm to
Lets hope so because talking about kids like this and these other replies of extracting stuff out of kids while trusting them is too sick to read. Real or not this whole threat should be deleted. fricking sick not to mention the crazy bitch they quoting it from is a liberal lunatic.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 9:34 pm to
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Daniel Goleman, New York Times 


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/2/26 at 10:17 pm to
I love these threads. We are just up to our necks in satanists doing all sorts of heinous shite.......all over the place. Hell, I can't go out for a nighttime walk without bumping into at least a half dozen sacrifices.

Yet, no one seems to get caught, at least nowhere near the scale of the allegations. Those satanists are sneaky, sneaky......damn near super criminal status.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/2/26 at 10:24 pm to
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Outside of small isolated incidents (which typically involve major mental illness and not sincere religious belief), none of these large organized occult/Satanic groups who engage in this type of terrible crimes have been found.


When 1 million babies are killed by their own mothers every single year in this country, it's not that far of a stretch to think someone may enjoy harming other people's babies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477259 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:14 am to
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I love these threads. We are just up to our necks in satanists doing all sorts of heinous shite.......all over the place. Hell, I can't go out for a nighttime walk without bumping into at least a half dozen sacrifices.


This is why the topic was always fascinating to me, long before it was revived by the conspiratorial types on the right.

I was born in 1983 so I had almost perfect framing for growing up in the Satanic Panic. For a large period of my childhood I DID believe in the scenario you posted, because that's what a bunch of religious and LEO-related grifters promoted.

Then it died out, I didn't think about it for a few years only to later find out it was all bullshite. From the repressed memories to the organized Satanic networks. I had a feeling by early high school some of it may have been overplayed (leading to me calling a bishop a liar to his face in Sunday School one day), but it was a foundational moment to realize it was all total bullshite.

It's been a hot topic for me ever since. And something I've specifically jumped into on here since the mid-2000s...long before the Q virus took over the brains of so many. These people think it's some modern contrarian stance when they are the n00bs and don't realize it.

The irony is these Epstein releases have largely gutted the widespread Epstein trafficking CTs, but the ancillary shite posting about it has amplified with this recent release, with terrible, nonsensical threads like this one and the one about the Mexican "model".

It's utterly fascinating to me and likely always will be..
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:14 am to
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When 1 million babies are killed by their own mothers every single year in this country, it's not that far of a stretch to think someone may enjoy harming other people's babies.


This makes no sense.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:45 am to
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This makes no sense.


Come on SFP, you can do so much better than this. It absolutely makes sense. Your assertion is that the "Satanic Panic" was mostly fabricated (for who knows what reason) and that it has been widely debunked. Yes? Correct me if I'm misunderstanding. I'm a few years older than you, so I know what you're talking about with the media.

I'm only saying that we have over a million known "human sacrifices" of babies each year in the United States, and these murders are initiated by their own mothers - the people who should cherish them the most. These babies are "sacrificed" for myriad reasons and most are self-serving for the mother. And for a visual for those who don't think that's a big deal. That's TEN TIGER STADIUMS with a baby in each seat. Every single year.

If a mother can do this to her own child, it's not difficult to make the connection that some sick perverts out there would do this to other children. Add in the Catholic priest scandals and the seemingly endless supply of pedo teachers posted on the OT, and the numbers of abused children starts to add up. Human Trafficking is a lucrative business. We're looking for the boogey man, when evil is hiding in plain sight.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27205 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 7:50 am to
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1000’s of children?

Sensationalized numbers


So instead of being outraged over this, you want to complain that YOU don't agree with the numbers with no knowledge to back up your claim. Sick.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65900 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:00 am to
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17,000 FETUSES FOUND IN SHIPPING CONTAINER


That video was very difficult to watch.
Posted by LSUbest
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Member since Aug 2007
16501 posts
Posted on 2/3/26 at 8:03 am to
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