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re: Tucker-Putin interview partial transcript in here.

Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:10 pm to
frick Ukraine.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4134 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:16 pm to
Watch Roger Stone's documentary. Ukraine on Fire.

That's the most informative piece on Madan and our starting this thing.

Victoria Nuland should be in prison for all time or turned over to the Russians.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2299 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:20 pm to
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To say there is no difference is horseshite.


Assange says hello along with many others.

Also, I wonder what happened to all of the Ukraine and US journalists that questioned Mr. Z in Ukraine? They were turned into future Biden voters.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7328 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Oh, and on the day that one of the best journalists of the last 20 years testified on Capitol Hill about weaponization of government, IRS goons visited his house. And don't get me started on Assange.


The fact that you learned that this is taking place from news sources that function within the US shows the difference. You guys can keep throwing out examples of censoring and shenanigans and saying seee we are just as bad and it simply is not true.
If there was an Elon Musk type individual in Russia that tried to take on Putin by establishing his own free speech platform where folks could criticize the Putin regime he would eliminated...one way or another...the average citizen cant even access Facebook or X legally in Russia.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7328 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Also, I wonder what happened to all of the Ukraine and US journalists that questioned Mr. Z in Ukraine? They were turned into future Biden voters.


Why doesn't Putin trust his citizens to access X (Twitter) legally in Russia? Yet allows his cronies to post?
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Why doesn't Putin trust his citizens to access X (Twitter) legally in Russia? Yet allows his cronies to post?




Same reason Zelensky killed American citizen Gonzalo Lira.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7328 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Same reason Zelensky killed American citizen Gonzalo Lira.


Hey thats fair enough and that info and inquiry that Musk and Tucker promoted included some tough words by his father about Biden as I recall. You guys keep proving my point.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:48 pm to
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Hey thats fair enough


My only point is suppression of speech is not only a Putin thing. That is normal for that part of the world. We just decided to pick one dictator over another because Putin kicked out Western oligarchs in the early 2000s after they ravaged the former USSR mafia style and were forced to set up shop further south in Ukraine to carry out their Victoria Nuland bio-labs and MIC money laundering operations.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7307 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Why doesn't Putin trust his citizens to access X (Twitter) legally in Russia? Yet allows his cronies to post?


Pretty simple answer to your question:
FB and Twitter have proven themselves to be willing partners in censorship favoring one political side over the other and have as much as admitted to kowtowing to FBI requests (read: demands) that they censor posts and tweets that are not in line with the narrative the government wants put forward.

Considering that our current regime is hellbent on providing a favorable view of Ukraine and has shown that they will weaponize FB and Twitter it's no wonder that these platforms have been shut down in Russia. However, Russian citizens still make good use of Youtube. So maybe it has something to do with our government interfering with the free exchange of information and ideas in direct violation of the First Amendment to our Constitution in the Bill of Rights.

So, why doesn't OUR government trust our citizens to make their own decisions without having their information spoon fed to them with "certain undesirable" bits having been culled?
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
2637 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:34 pm to
It is amazing to me as a Gen Xor that I have to hear a Russian politician give me the truth that our own government and media hide from us every day.

That line about America is self destructing is chilling.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7328 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:44 pm to
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B and Twitter have proven themselves to be willing partners in censorship favoring one political side over the other and have as much as admitted to kowtowing to FBI requests (read: demands) that they censor posts and tweets that are not in line with the narrative the government wants put forward.

Considering that our current regime is hellbent on providing a favorable view of Ukraine and has shown that they will weaponize FB and Twitter it's no wonder that these platforms have been shut down in Russia. However, Russian citizens still make good use of Youtube. So maybe it has something to do with our government interfering with the free exchange of information and ideas in direct violation of the First Amendment to our Constitution in the Bill of Rights.

So, why doesn't OUR government trust our citizens to make their own decisions without having their information spoon fed to them with "certain undesirable" bits having been culled?


What percentage of content from Facebook or Twitter do you think is censored bc it is not inline with the US's government's narrative on subjects? Now that Musk has taken over is it more or less? So the answer to censorship and curated media is just ban the platform all together.

This doesnt even take into account the new censorship laws that Putin put into effect the last couple of years. You can be fined and arrested for wearing a shirt that criticizes the regime in public
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46151 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:12 pm to
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Mr Putin, Can you explain how by 2014 you attained 4.5% ownership stake in natural gas producer Gazprom, a 37% stake in oil company Surgutneftegas and 50% stake in Swiss oil-trader Gunvor.




Sounds like Putin could give Pelosi and some of the entrenched DC politicians a run for investing prowess.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:14 pm to
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Mr Putin, Can you explain how by 2014 you attained 4.5% ownership stake in natural gas producer Gazprom, a 37% stake in oil company Surgutneftegas and 50% stake in Swiss oil-trader Gunvor.

His answer would likely be "Why do you give a shite, its none of your business or relevant to America"
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9185 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:21 pm to
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People are waking up. I have a female friend that has always been very liberal.

She flipped and sees it all now. She had a long post last week and then the next day posted about all the liberal friends that PM'd her saying they had to unfriend her. LOL

People see it and know it.


Thanks to Independent Media and voices like Tucker, Russell Brand, PBD, Shawn Ryan, Glenn Beck, and many others.
Independent Media is the shining light exposing "we the people" to the truth.
For those of us willing to open eyes and see it.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68694 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:22 pm to
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The fact that you learned that this is taking place from news sources that function within the US shows the difference. You guys can keep throwing out examples of censoring and shenanigans and saying seee we are just as bad and it simply is not true.
If there was an Elon Musk type individual in Russia that tried to take on Putin by establishing his own free speech platform where folks could criticize the Putin regime he would eliminated...one way or another...the average citizen cant even access Facebook or X legally in Russia.



Saying russia is bad doesnt make anything the US has done Okay.

Im an American citizen, not russian. I dont give a flying frick about them.

I care about what our people are doing.



And you asking why his citizens cant access a social media platform that was being manipulated by the US federal government? To the point now Judges want to keep Musk from earning money for exposing it?

This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68694 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:28 pm to
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This doesnt even take into account the new censorship laws that Putin put into effect the last couple of years. You can be fined and arrested for wearing a shirt that criticizes the regime in public


Have you been to Eruope? Like western europe? democratic allies of the US europe?

Yeah, they have hate speech laws. you get thrown in jail there too.

here is one from a guy that posted a video on social media.

quote:

A French court has given Algerian football player Youcef Atal an eight-month suspended prison sentence for a post he shared on social media about the war in Gaza.

The Nice criminal court said on Wednesday that a video Atal reposted on social media in October provoked hatred on the grounds of religion.



This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9185 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:28 pm to
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This doesnt even take into account the new censorship laws that Putin put into effect the last couple of years. You can be fined and arrested for wearing a shirt that criticizes the regime in public


Folks on here "defending" Putin haven't defended his or Russias method of government. Tucker's interview is not about defending Russias government, the US is still the best nation in the world.
People are misunderstanding Tucker's intention.
It's simply to provide both sides of the story. Allow people to hear Putin, consider both sides and all the outlying factors, and come to their own conclusion.
How Putin runs his country is not my concern. Not my monkey, not my circus.
I love this country, America, and what it's supposed to stand for. Nobody is advocating moving to Russia. SMH.
The issue is how those running our nation are controlling most by censoring the narrative to further their agenda, which has zero to do with what's best for us or America.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 4:33 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27570 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:48 pm to
Gee, nothing earth shattering. Pretty much what everyone would assume he would say .....and has said. So Tucker probably wastes his time overall. Don't see why Eurotrash and even some here got their panties all in a wad.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:03 pm to
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his citizens cant access a social media platform


Or criticize him, the government, the invasion of Ukraine, pressing unwilling civilians into war, rigging every election/vote.

Lovely guy. Who is pro abortion. And torture. And who would love the destruction of the U.S.
Posted by geauxjuice
t(-.-t)
Member since Jan 2007
4125 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:47 pm to
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It is amazing to me as a Gen Xor that I have to hear a Russian politician give me the truth that our own government and media hide from us every day. That line about America is self destructing is chilling.


come on bro this isnt real. im fine with disagreeing on political issues but i need yall to see through the bullshite a little better
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