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re: Tucker is now going after what Charlie Kirk built which is Turning Point USA
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:54 pm to jizzle6609
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:54 pm to jizzle6609
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Dudes doing drugs.
Must be either some really good stuff or really, really bad.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 1:59 pm to cajunangelle
I am a conservative. You are not
Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:14 pm to cajunangelle
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This sounds just like gatoremote. Did you forget to sign off again?
The sophomoric way you just automatically label Dana Loesche as a wine box woman because you disagree with her is sad.
And alls Carlson talks about is Erika and disparaging jews in an infantile way. In between his maniacal laughter that is...
Please stop wasting time with the alter crap.
I had never watched Loesche before. She seriously sounded drunk to me. I watched the whole segment waiting for details on how Tucker was going after TPUSA. I didn't here any.
If you think Carlson disparages Jews for being Jewish, I would like to see it. Tucker doesn't want the America government and American taxpayer dollars working for a foreign government...be it Israel, Ukraine, Egypt, etc.
There wasn't much of substance with which to agree or disagree with in that segment. Mostly it was just irrelevant personal attacks on Tucker (he's a drop out, his staff didn't like him...although he extended the courtesy of giving me a platform at Fox many time and I didn't see any of that...of course she didn't say the bit about courtesy, manners don't seem to be her long suit.)
Did you think it was a real zinger when she dogged Tucker because he "couldn't get his kid into Georgetown?" It was that kind of crap that made me think "wine box": drunk, bitchy, and low class.
The only thing remotely redeeming was her mention of post-liberalism. Maybe I would watch her again if she expounded upon that.
Anyhow, thanks for the clip. Any information is helpful.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:31 pm to cajunangelle
For those interested in what Tucker has actually said about TPUSA post-Charlie, I am posting the ChatGPT summary below. Of course, it doesn't mean it's authoritative. Check the links if you're really interested.
Tucker likes Erika Kirk. His concern about current TPUSA is that it will become overly influenced by Neocon donors now that Charlie is gone, because Charlie was against wars in the Middle East that didn't benefit the US.
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Yes. I found a fairly direct criticism from Tucker Carlson of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), although it is more nuanced than simply attacking the organization.
The clearest criticism
In a 2026 interview with The New York Times, Carlson was asked whether he still had a relationship with TPUSA after Charlie Kirk's death. Carlson said:
“I would hate to see it hijacked by its donors to become an oracle of neoconservatism.”
He immediately qualified that criticism by saying he thought it would be difficult because TPUSA's members and young supporters weren't necessarily aligned with that foreign-policy direction. ?
RealClearPolitics
That's significant because he's identifying donor influence as a potential problem within TPUSA, rather than criticizing its ordinary members.
Carlson's more pointed criticism of TPUSA's donor environment
In September 2025, Carlson went considerably further when discussing the pressure he said Charlie Kirk had received from donors and supporters of Netanyahu.
Carlson claimed that:
Kirk was subjected to “a very intense attack” from his donors after giving Carlson a platform.
Kirk had lost a $2 million donation, according to Carlson, shortly before his death.
Carlson said donors had “tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.”
He attributed some of that pressure to people aligned with Netanyahu.
Those are Carlson's allegations, not independently established facts, so I'd separate them from what can be documented directly about TPUSA's finances. Mediaite reported the remarks and also noted that former Rep. Matt Gaetz publicly said he had personal knowledge supporting Carlson's claims. ?
Mediaite
What's interesting about Carlson's position
Carlson hasn't generally portrayed TPUSA itself as an enemy. Quite the opposite: he has said he likes Erika Kirk, knows many people at TPUSA, and had been a headliner at numerous TPUSA events. In the NYT interview he specifically said:
“Never said a word against Turning Point.”
His criticism is essentially about what could happen to TPUSA if donor influence pulls it toward a more interventionist/neoconservative foreign policy. ?
RealClearPolitics
Tucker likes Erika Kirk. His concern about current TPUSA is that it will become overly influenced by Neocon donors now that Charlie is gone, because Charlie was against wars in the Middle East that didn't benefit the US.
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Yes. I found a fairly direct criticism from Tucker Carlson of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), although it is more nuanced than simply attacking the organization.
The clearest criticism
In a 2026 interview with The New York Times, Carlson was asked whether he still had a relationship with TPUSA after Charlie Kirk's death. Carlson said:
“I would hate to see it hijacked by its donors to become an oracle of neoconservatism.”
He immediately qualified that criticism by saying he thought it would be difficult because TPUSA's members and young supporters weren't necessarily aligned with that foreign-policy direction. ?
RealClearPolitics
That's significant because he's identifying donor influence as a potential problem within TPUSA, rather than criticizing its ordinary members.
Carlson's more pointed criticism of TPUSA's donor environment
In September 2025, Carlson went considerably further when discussing the pressure he said Charlie Kirk had received from donors and supporters of Netanyahu.
Carlson claimed that:
Kirk was subjected to “a very intense attack” from his donors after giving Carlson a platform.
Kirk had lost a $2 million donation, according to Carlson, shortly before his death.
Carlson said donors had “tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.”
He attributed some of that pressure to people aligned with Netanyahu.
Those are Carlson's allegations, not independently established facts, so I'd separate them from what can be documented directly about TPUSA's finances. Mediaite reported the remarks and also noted that former Rep. Matt Gaetz publicly said he had personal knowledge supporting Carlson's claims. ?
Mediaite
What's interesting about Carlson's position
Carlson hasn't generally portrayed TPUSA itself as an enemy. Quite the opposite: he has said he likes Erika Kirk, knows many people at TPUSA, and had been a headliner at numerous TPUSA events. In the NYT interview he specifically said:
“Never said a word against Turning Point.”
His criticism is essentially about what could happen to TPUSA if donor influence pulls it toward a more interventionist/neoconservative foreign policy. ?
RealClearPolitics
Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:32 pm to IvoryBillMatt
At least you do try to watch videos to form an opinion I will give you that...
Go watch Carlsons video of this threads title in full. It is what it is.
Also do you think Carlson is just some innocent baw in his cabin, he is insidious, no?
Go watch Carlsons video of this threads title in full. It is what it is.
Also do you think Carlson is just some innocent baw in his cabin, he is insidious, no?
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:41 pm to cajunangelle
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Why does irrational hate seethe from you?
What is irrational about not wanting a foreign country to influence our own?
Posted on 9/18/26 at 2:44 pm to cajunangelle
how does dude still have audience?
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:04 pm to cajunangelle
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Go watch Carlsons video of this threads title in full. It is what it is.
Also do you think Carlson is just some innocent baw in his cabin, he is insidious, no?
Thanks. I watched both videos. I agree the criticism of Neff was unfair since Neff said ultimately that they chose AGAINST censorship.
Also, for Tucker to say "the evidence is piling up that Israel killed Charlie Kirk" was WAY over the top. I think it's fair to say that there was some evidence of a growing rift between Charlie and Israel-supporting donors before he was killed. There is ZERO evidence that "Israel killed Charlie."
As to the issue of whether or not Tucker is a psyop, I suppose that's possible. I thought his over-reaction to Midnight Hammer was illogical.
My father was Jewish. My mother was Christian and we didn't really much of a Jewish identity and nothing to do with Judaism. I'm not really equipped with some special means to determine if someone has problems with American support for the modern day state of Israel OR has a problem with Jews generally...but I haven't heard Tucker say anything that was actually anti-Jewish.
So...I don't think Carlson has been bought by some entity for some dark motive. I certainly don't always agree with him, but I think he's sincere and his views are his own.
Of course, his income depends on visibility l, so he says things that are purposefully provocative. Also, he admits that he isn't emotionally intelligent and he flies off the handle and says stupid stuff some times.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:25 pm to msutiger
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It has massive influence over young Americans with Kirk at the helm. It has none now. TPUSA is now mocked universally amongst the same crowd that used to fill its events.
The Da Jooos crowd has definitely won the marketing and algorithm battle for the under 40 crowd.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:27 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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MAGA will splinter. Massie will pick up portions of it.
Lololol
Massie has no lasting impact on politics in the US. His impact is over as soon as he leaves office.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 3:42 pm to cajunangelle
Am I the only one that finds it odd that the truly conservative voices are being attacked and silenced? Massie and now Tucker.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 4:14 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Because MAGA is only cultists, right?
I can't possibly dislike Tucker because he's a nutjob islam apologist and Massie because he's a blowhard who fights against Trump more than the democrats.
Nope, I can only dislike them because Trump tells me to. God, you're smart. You should have your own show. You can be the lead in for The View.
I apologize. Of course that was an unfair over statement. I rushed it.
Most MAGA people didn't develop an intense hatred and rejection of Massie and Carlson UNTIL Trump started hating them. Of course, there are rational reasons to dislike Massie and Carlson.
Posted on 9/18/26 at 4:17 pm to cajunangelle
The Entire Point of Turning Point USA is grift.
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