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re: Trumps war on Venezuela
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Aw see your dried out mangina of comments drops back to the usual drivel.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:22 pm to RollTide4547
quote:
Teat suckler from Alaska
You couldnt afford it here, Junior.
You getting any of Donnys farm welfare he's handing out?
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Not sure yet. We will see. Farmers provide a benefit to the nation, unlike teat sucklers like you.
You getting any of Donnys farm welfare he's handing out?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:31 pm to RollTide4547
quote:
Not sure yet. We will see. Farmers provide a benefit to the nation
Oh dear god. Youre a businessman, and many arent very good at it because they constantly need government welfare.
We get tired of the farmers whining and looking for handouts.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:46 pm to justaniceguy
quote:Were that true, both Hegseth and the Admiral would be gone. What this nitwit failed to mention is that a JAG was in the room, and validated the order before it was administered. The two survivors were not helplessly clinging to wreckage as the WaPo misreported (aka lied). They got back in the boat and were stupidly attempting to salvage their cargo. Now one can claim the boat attacks are terrible. One can scream "Oh! The Humanity!!" But don't lie about the events as they unfolded.
Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:52 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Were that true,
It appears to be true.
quote:
The two survivors were not helplessly clinging to wreckage as the WaPo misreported (aka lied). They got back in the boat and were stupidly attempting to salvage their cargo.
Did you just make this up?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:54 pm to Decatur
Make it up like your piss dossier?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:57 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:it's immaterial unless they attempt to surrender (and under the rules that's not even a guarantee) or comply with orders.
Were that true, both Hegseth and the Admiral would be gone. What this nitwit failed to mention is that a JAG was in the room, and validated the order before it was administered. The two survivors were not helplessly clinging to wreckage as the WaPo misreported (aka lied). They got back in the boat and were stupidly attempting to salvage their cargo. Now one can claim the boat attacks are terrible. One can scream "Oh! The Humanity!!" But don't lie about the events as they unfolded.
Since we did not control or occupy the ground (or water) complying with orders is off the table.
They engaged by being in the boat. You don't get to engage the US military and then when things turn bad throw up your hands. You had an opportunity to surrender before engaging, or not engaging at all. Running away after engaging still doesn't work.
You don't fire from a fortified position in Falluja and when the USMC starts throwing grenades through the door have a chance to give up. Your choices have been made... live, or die, with them at that point.
This ain't the fricking movies.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 4:58 pm to Sassafrasology
quote:
1. It’s no longer a mono-polar world and Trump is implementing the Monroe Doctrine to keep China and Russia out of the Americas (North and South). This includes forcing Venezuela to use the dollar in trade with China and Russia. Brazil is already a problem in terms of BRICS. The bankers are telling Trump to not allow the anti-dollar contagion to spread to Venezuela.
I think this is what it's really about, and possibly oil as well.
If they really wanted to keep most fentanyl out of the US they'd be hitting Mejico.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:19 pm to justaniceguy
Dead Donald,
Please don't.
These things almost never work out.
Please don't.
These things almost never work out.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:37 pm to Decatur
quote:bullshite!
It appears to be true.
quote:No
Did you just make this up?
Cotton said the survivors were “trying to flip a boat, loaded with drugs bound for the United States, back over so they could stay in the fight.” He further stated other trafficking vessels might have arrived to recover the drugs if the wreckage was left undisturbed.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:46 pm to justaniceguy
Not like you. He wised up. Your still stuck on the dark side.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:49 pm to justaniceguy
Oil, oil, and more oil!
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:52 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Adam Smith
I can answer that. And yes, Admiral Bradley has… he was the JSOC commander for a while. He has ordered, as he said, hundreds, probably more than a thousand of these strikes in different parts of the world. Now, first thing is they were not at the point that they were struck trying to flip the boat back over. So let’s just dismiss that. Also, they had no communications devices. We have no evidence that they attempted to communicate, or they weren’t in a position to communicate with anyone, so you can’t argue, and Admiral Bradley didn’t argue that they were trying to flip the boat over and continue on in that regard, so what you’ve heard from Senator Cotton and some others is simply false. That is not an accurate depiction of what was going on in the boat. Now, bear with me as I make this argument for you. So, and this ties back into the larger mission. So, the mission was to kill all 11 people on the boat and destroy the cocaine. Minor little sub-point, by the way, there’s all this, you know, attacking the Washington Post for misreporting that he gave a kill everyone order. Well, that depends on how you look at it. There were 11 people on the boat, and the order was Kill them all. It was not a capture or detain. So, it is not inaccurate for whoever in the Pentagon leaked to the Washington Post, he said, kill everyone. That’s not inaccurate. Now, it’s a little unfair, in the sense that when you say that, it implies that, okay, you’ve got 5 people in an apartment building with 100 others, just blow the whole thing up, I don’t care. The 11 people who were contained in that killed them all, were deemed to be legitimate targets as affiliates of one of these narco-terrorist groups. Also. The order was not no survivors. It didn’t say, no matter the situation, kill them all. So… but, the order was to kill all 11 people on the boat. So you got 2 left surviving. The argument starts with the fact that The belief that the cocaine on that boat could have somehow survived that initial strike, and was conceivably in the bow of the boat, beneath you know, what we can see, the part under the water. Now, I find that fantastical in the first place, because a boat, you see the first strike, whole thing’s on fire. It breaks in half, it goes down. Is it possible that some drugs were contained underneath? I suppose it’s possible, but it’s highly unlikely. But even worse than that, the notion is That cocaine still could have gotten to the United States, and they’re treating that cocaine like it’s a weapon. Basically, they’re treating that image of those two people on that boat like a situation where, I don’t know, you see a car bomb headed towards an embassy or something. It’s struck, it seems like it’s incapacitated, but is it incapacitated? We don’t know, there’s still a couple people there. Maybe they can complete the mission, maybe they can get that bomb to the building and blow it up. And that, too, is kind of absurd, alright? Even if there is some cocaine in that boat, they are in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea with no power of locomotion, no communication devices. They are drifting with the current. A fact, by the way, that Admiral Bradley admitted, okay? That they weren’t… but his argument was. The boat could have conceivably drifted somewhere, where some other, you know, people associated with this drug cartel could have met up with them and continued the mission. That is the argument, alright? Treating the cocaine like it is a full-scale weapon.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:02 pm to bluedragon
I am more conservative than you or Trump. I have very strong moral values that make it tough to endorse the killing of people for dubious reasons. Can you say the same?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:02 pm to bluedragon
Trump is a New York Democrat who hates the south and everything we have ever stood for. You have been conned.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:03 pm to justaniceguy
quote:
I have very strong moral values that make it tough to endorse the killing of people for dubious reasons. Can you say the same?
I wouldn’t call drug trafficking a dubious reason
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:03 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
It’s clear this has nothing to do with drugs
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:04 pm to CapnKangaroo
What drugs are they trafficking?
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