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re: Trump’s upcoming Beijing visit is turning into a diplomatic nightmare for Xi Jinping.

Posted on 3/14/26 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 1:47 pm to
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33% of china's oil comes from Venezuela, Russia, and Iran, all of which will be selling at market price rather than huge discounts due to sanctions. That is gonna bite their arse.

This is also going to others in the region, like the Saudis, etc.

Once this is all over the changes to world petro market is going to be interestingly different. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
606 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 4:09 pm to
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of which will be selling at market price rather than huge discounts due to sanctions. That is gonna bite their arse.


Does that mean that everything we buy from China will go up in price?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23305 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:41 am to
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Don't forget about unleashing COVID on us and the world.

We developed that version of COVID in a lab in Chapel Hill, NC.

Whether the globalists released it or the Chinese did or they teamed up is up to debate, but everything that “Covid” became was dreamed up back home unfortunately.

And yes, the people who would knowingly and intentionally do that are evil psychopaths with zero respect for human life and need to be expunged from the world scene.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23305 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 8:52 am to
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We're wasting time with pawns like Ukraine

Deep state op to launder money to their globalist operations and destabilize a non controlled nation (Russia).

If we could cut off the spigot there I think we’d all be surprised at what bad things start to break globally for the deep state.
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Iran

This could in theory destabilize China by clamping down on their access to oil and therefore benefit us, but many here don’t like to hear that the cost to do it is probably ground troops (which is why I was opposed in the first place).

I’d argue there’s also a risk of accelerating the process by which China could turn into a kinetic opponent as we did with Japan prior to WW2 by limiting their access to oil, but if carefully managed we might avoid that outcome.

Personally I wanted to consolidate our regime change op in Venezuela, finish the destabilization efforts in Cuba and flip Brazil back to populist and which would have China out of the Western Hemisphere (looking at you closely Canada…) and break BRICS to preserve the dollar as reserve currency.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41546 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Deep state op to launder money to their globalist operations and destabilize a non controlled nation (Russia).

If we could cut off the spigot there I think we’d all be surprised at what bad things start to break globally for the deep state.




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This could in theory destabilize China by clamping down on their access to oil and therefore benefit us, but many here don’t like to hear that the cost to do it is probably ground troops (which is why I was opposed in the first place).




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I’d argue there’s also a risk of accelerating the process by which China could turn into a kinetic opponent as we did with Japan prior to WW2 by limiting their access to oil, but if carefully managed we might avoid that outcome.


It is just about the time that we need to fire up the industrial war machine again and funnel a few trillion tax dollars into the money silos of some multi-billionaires.

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Personally I wanted to consolidate our regime change op in Venezuela, finish the destabilization efforts in Cuba and flip Brazil back to populist and which would have China out of the Western Hemisphere (looking at you closely Canada…) and break BRICS to preserve the dollar as reserve currency.


Yes, we should have absolute domination over our hemisphere first.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16766 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:40 pm to
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We're wasting time with pawns like Ukraine and Iran when the real enemy is in China.



I believe the actions in Panama, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran etc are to isolate China as much as possible and prepare for a hot war with them. Right now we're kicking the legs out from underneath them.

Once the chess pieces are in place and the US is re-armed, there will be a triggering event and it will pop off. This has to happen relatively quickly, though, as the US gets weaker by the day with socialists/islamists/leftists undermining the social fabric.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41546 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:41 pm to
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prepare for a hot war with them


That would be so incredibly stupid.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23020 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:50 pm to
POTUS Trump is simply taking that "picture" of China that the world has down and replacing it with the real "picture" of China.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:31 pm to
What are the chances Trump doesn’t even go now?
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
991 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:07 pm to
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We developed that version of COVID in a lab in Chapel Hill, NC.


I remember that vaguely, do you have a link?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:33 pm to
Rexcatur why wouldn't he go?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68377 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:37 pm to
The theory is he thought Iran would be wrapped up and he could flex nuts on China.
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Trump will visit China four weeks from now – from March 31 to April 2. His position towards China was weakened when the Supreme Court recently buried his tariff edicts. Being bogged down in Iran would further weaken his position.

But coming to China while having won concessions from Iran would be bonus for Trump. He could claim that the U.S. is able to forcibly change governments, in Iran and Venezuela, who supply energy to Beijing. A victory in Iran would put Trump into a good negotiation positions.

China, on the other side, will want to avoid a loss of Iran. Its interest is to see the U.S. bogged down in the Middle East and with its arsenals empty. Everyone and everything that helps to that will be in Beijing’s favor.

The time horizon of four week thus matters. It is the time frame in which Trump has to win. It is the time frame which Iran needs to sustain to come out as a (nominal) winner.

The four weeks are to be kept in mind when and analyzing the procession of this uneven fight.

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Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:40 pm to
Iran
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3619 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:41 pm to
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Doesn't chyna also get oil from russia?


Not as much and definitely not discounted anymore when Trump lifts sanctions and allows Russian oil back in the markets
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:43 pm to
Lol you crack me up.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:51 pm to
Do you think China is going to help Trump open the Strait of Hormuz then? Oh wait it isn’t closed to China.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90572 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:56 pm to
Lol look at fapmaster Decatur. One tanker made it out.

How much oil does your buddies in China buy year over year from Iran and Venezuela at below market value?

Stick to believing a puss dossier clown.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23305 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:00 pm to
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Ralph S. Baric, a William R. Kenan Jr. Distinguished Professor at UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health, has studied coronaviruses for over 30 years. His lab is a global leader in coronavirus genetics, replication, pathogenesis, cross-species transmission, and vaccine/antiviral development. ? • Key pre-COVID work included creating chimeric (hybrid) coronaviruses by combining components of bat coronaviruses (e.g., from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, or WIV) with SARS-like backbones to study infectivity and potential pandemic risks. A notable 2015 paper (Baric as senior author) involved such experiments, conducted at UNC after biosafety review

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Baric collaborated with WIV researcher Shi Zhengli on bat coronavirus sampling and analysis. Some research involved U.S. NIH funding; a 2014–2017 U.S. gain-of-function moratorium affected related work, with some experiments shifting or continuing under review.


UNC.edu: Ralph baric profile
NIH: links to Wuhan
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