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Trump's Reason For Wanting The Filibuster Removed. Is He Right?

Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:04 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:04 am
Trump is really digging in on pressing the Senate to remove this procedure. His reasoning is when the Democrats gain control they will remove the filibuster and ram liberal shite down the nation's throat.

Is Trump right? Will the Senate Democrats drop this procedure when the gain power?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:05 am
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20130 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:05 am to
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Will the Senate Democrats drop this procedure when the gain power?
What have you seen from Democrats in the last thirty years to suggest they won't do any and everything to cement their power? Yes, they absolutely will do this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463637 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:07 am to
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What have you seen from Democrats in the last thirty years to suggest they won't do any and everything to cement their power? Yes, they absolutely will do this.


When have they voted to remove the filibuster on legislation in those 30 years?

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43707 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:09 am to
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Trump is really digging in on pressing the Senate to remove this procedure. His reasoning is when the Democrats gain control they will remove the filibuster and ram liberal shite down the nation's throat.

Is Trump right? Will the Senate Democrats drop this procedure when the gain power?


Democrats will get rid of the filibuster once they are back in power. Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema voted with the republicans to keep it. Manchin and Sinema are gone so there is nothing to stop a future democrat controlled Senate from doing away with the filibuster. Trump is 100% correct. Republicans should get rid of it and pass some damn laws.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5316 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:09 am to
Well, they have done it in the past so why would anyone think they wouldn't do it again?
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15126 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:11 am to
Trump knows if the Democrats win the Senate in the house he’s over. They will impeach him and he will be the first president to actually get impeached and removed from office. It’s gonna be a complete shite show his last two years and everything he’s done will be undone. I’m so glad that conservatives are in fighting while literal communist are getting elected. I was always concerned with this coalition Trump had between the tech Bros, Israel, and the podcast Bros. Those three all have different agendas that were never gonna mash well.


But even at it, worst maga is better than the crap we’re about to get from the left
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
65967 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:11 am to
This is like the Glenn Greenwald v. Chris Rufo debate. People like me, SFP, and Roger have been saying over and over, be careful what you wish for with the maximalist actions because they are going to be shoved up your butts x 10 in the future. That's the Greenwald argument. The Rufo argument is that the electorate chose Trump to fight back as much as possible on lefty abuses and he has to go full throttle while he can. I will say, the filibuster issue is interesting as it is the rare instance where a decent amount of this board seems to be advocating for restraint and not blowing up customs/procedures.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134885 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:12 am to
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When have they voted to remove the filibuster on legislation in those 30 years?
Exactly!
and why did they not?
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:12 am to
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When have they voted to remove the filibuster on legislation in those 30 years?


When have we seen elected dem officials openly calling for the deaths of their opponents children and saying they will piss on their grave?

frick you and your willfully ignorant schtick.

Trump needs to do any and everything he can to go scorched earth on the left now.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13573 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:12 am to
100% correct. At the very least, reduce the number from 60 to 55 like it was reduced from 67 to 60 previously. Trump and the GOP have a 1 year window to get things done, do that and they will have another 2 year window.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:15 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9192 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:13 am to
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Well, they have done it in the past so why would anyone think they wouldn't do it again?


The reason I ask is this board, like the Senate Democrats has been against ending the Cloture rule yet it seems like we're at the point of kill or be killed be legislature
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134885 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:15 am to
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Republicans should get rid of it and pass some damn laws.
That would be a-okay IF the GOP had a ""radical"" agenda, e.g., a balanced budget. It doesn't.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:16 am
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23212 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:15 am to
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Trump is really digging in on pressing the Senate to remove this procedure. His reasoning is when the Democrats gain control they will remove the filibuster and ram liberal shite down the nation's throat.

Is Trump right? Will the Senate Democrats drop this procedure when the gain power?



He is 100000% right. We are talking about the Democrats who would kill there own family members. They will do ANYTHING to get shite passed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463637 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:15 am to
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When have we seen elected dem officials openly calling for the deaths of their opponents children and saying they will piss on their grave?

frick you and your willfully ignorant schtick.

Trump needs to do any and everything he can to go scorched earth on the left now.


You avoided answering the question to promote emotional nonsense based on a completely irrelevant example (not even a federal one).

In one post you showed the blueprint for how authoritarians take power
Posted by BillysIsland
Member since Aug 2025
892 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:16 am to
That was always going to happen if he didn't do what he said he would for affordability. Should have thought about that before prioritizing keeping the Adelesons happy in the Middle East
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
484 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:17 am to
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What have you seen from Democrats in the last thirty years to suggest they won't do any and everything to cement their power? Yes, they absolutely will do this.
Mainly the fact that over that time they have not acted to remove the filibuster.

Unlike some, Senators generally respect the institution of the Senate.

Trump is not a Senator, and he needs to stay in his own lane.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463637 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:17 am to
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and why did they not?


Exactly what people like me and bunk are talking about. With respect to the Democrats. It's a mutually assured destruction scenario where they give the GOP the ability to go absolutely ham. They did dabble with judges and then got absolutely owned during Trump's first administration and that's why you did not see this during biden's administration and when they needed to remove the filibuster for his terrible legislation. That's why all these emotionally based fear arguments about how they're going to do it don't stand up to even the most basic and elementary of scrutiny because we literally have an example, post supreme Court filibuster being removed, of the Democrats specifically not removing filibuster restrictions on legislation

That's why any example used to instill fear Will be irrelevant like the one I pointed out above
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45677 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:19 am to
Short-sighted. Very short-sighted.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20130 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:21 am to
I think it's fair to say the game has changed.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6742 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:22 am to
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When have they voted to remove the filibuster on legislation in those 30 years?


While I disagree with a lot of what you post, the majority of your posts are logical and thought out. With that said, I don't think this is one. You know if Sinema and Manchin don't vote with the Republicans in 2022, the fillibuster is dead. So while yes, a vote has not removed it in the past 30 years, it was only because two saved it. Those two are gone and there us no one left to save it and you know it.
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