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re: Trumps next target - net neutrality say Admin officials
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:23 pm to CorporateTiger
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:23 pm to CorporateTiger
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Also describing the current state of ISPs as a free market is ridiculous (and I'm not talking NN here)
I agree, but now that they can sell our browsing history they can reinvest and get me better speeds!
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Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:26 pm to DavidTheGnome
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but now that they can sell our browsing history they can reinvest and get me better speeds!
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:29 pm to League Champs
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I am victimized by the current rules. Getting rid of them allows for a world of options. Otherwise, I am to just sit here and get throttled down more and more
No you aren't. Throttling down is what happens without net neutrality. The only options opened up will be the various packages your ISP gets to sell you to tack onto your current subscription. To get you back up to your current speed. Net neutrality isn't hampering your speeds.
You may be a smart guy, but on this topic you're clueless.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Throttling down is what happens without net neutrality.
good god. read what the FCC proposed rules were under NN. It wasnt protecting down throttling.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:34 pm to CptBengal
No, it was treating all packets the same. End net neutrality and Comcast or whoever gets to treat web data however it wishes.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
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No, it was treating all packets the same.
wrong. the FCC regs said to treat all "trusted" packets the same.
it's always in the regulatory text...not what they sell you.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:42 pm to League Champs
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I am victimized by the current rules. Getting rid of them allows for a world of options. Otherwise, I am to just sit here and get throttled down more and more
What options when most places have no options and are subject to bullshite polices.
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I heard this same shite when people didn't want to break up Ma Bell. When people didn't want Tesla to sell in their state. When insurance companies didn't want to open outside state lines. When no one wanted to allow fracking. When Standard Oil don't want to be broken up. When PBS didn't want to lose funding
B.c the internet is basically a public utility now
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Until you change the rules, you have no idea what a hungry, eager entrepreneur can do
How can entrepreneurs do anything with local or state gov't wont allow them to enter the market b/c they are bought out by other ISPs?
You really don't get it.
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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How can entrepreneurs do anything with local or state gov't wont allow them to enter the market b/c they are bought out by other ISPs?
see Tesla
Posted on 4/1/17 at 11:53 pm to League Champs
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see Tesla
Ok so you have no real answer
thanks
Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:00 am to DavidTheGnome
So I have some concerns about net neutrality and government being involved. Big concern is most of government doesn't understand tech at all.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:06 am to DavidTheGnome
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Throttling down is what happens without net neutrality.
Theres no throttling. Its just not available. The more homes built will only make it worse. I was sailing along before NN, and before new construction
You guys are arguing just like they did back when TV was via antennae. They didn't want to allow cable to carry local stations. They mocked people when it was suggested that one day you could pay to pick and choose
"No one will pay for what they can get for free"
Well, they do
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However, due to many legal, regulatory and technological obstacles, cable television in the United States in its first 24 years was used almost exclusively to relay over-the-air commercial television stations to remote and inaccessible areas. It also became popular in other areas in which mountainous terrain caused poor reception over the air. Original programming over cable came in 1972 with deregulation of the industry.
The FCC overruled a hearing examiner in favor of broadcasters again in the "San Diego Case". The CATV systems in San Diego, California wanted to import stations from Los Angeles, some of which could be seen in San Diego; the television stations in San Diego did not want the signals to be imported. The television stations won, not allowing the signals on future cable lines in San Diego and its environs. The FCC's reasoning was to protect existing and future UHF stations in San Diego.
If you find yourself on the side of govt restrictions, then you're on the wrong side
Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:47 am to League Champs
Ok just take heed to the fact that the vast bulk of the country including much of your own party thinks you're wrong.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:48 am to DavidTheGnome
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the vast bulk of the country
thinks UBI is a good idea.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 12:56 am to CptBengal
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thinks UBI is a good idea.
Not hardly, but way to go completely off topic
Posted on 4/2/17 at 2:12 am to StraightCashHomey21
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So short sighted.
No its not
you clearly just don't get it.
If ISPs had it their way, aka no NN. Internet in America would continue to be substandard and over priced.
Actually, it is already substandard and overpriced. Koreans are paying $30-40 a month for fiber. They're streaming 4k, while we pay twice as much to stream 480p. We've set up monopolies, paid them to provide infrastructure, and they just took the money and fricked us. And now they want to setup toll lanes to make more money. Screw them. I just feel bad for every conservative Cuck dumb enough to buy the ISP's bullshite. Some issues are nonpartisan, and this is supposed to be one of them.
Posted on 4/2/17 at 6:07 am to CCTider
Exactly. Desipute the fact that Comcast's stock continues to steadily rise they didn't begin building fiber anything until Google came along and pushed them forward.
Now Google, one of the biggest companies on the planet, has had to scale back their plan because the morass of local regulations (plus Comcast's bullshite) have made their task nigh impossible.
Since someone brought up Tesla earlier, the only hope for fiber in large portions of this country is (a) a massive political changeover at the state and local level or (b) wireless technology becoming fast enough to compete with current infrastructure. There may some pioneering companies that try to pursue (b), but that isn't a given.
Also Tesla is currently only kept alive by VC money and is horrifically overvalued compared to their free cash flow. Don't get me wrong, I love their card, but it is too earlier to call them a success story.
Now Google, one of the biggest companies on the planet, has had to scale back their plan because the morass of local regulations (plus Comcast's bullshite) have made their task nigh impossible.
Since someone brought up Tesla earlier, the only hope for fiber in large portions of this country is (a) a massive political changeover at the state and local level or (b) wireless technology becoming fast enough to compete with current infrastructure. There may some pioneering companies that try to pursue (b), but that isn't a given.
Also Tesla is currently only kept alive by VC money and is horrifically overvalued compared to their free cash flow. Don't get me wrong, I love their card, but it is too earlier to call them a success story.
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