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re: Trump's Long Game

Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:50 am to
Posted by First Sergeant1
Enterprise, Alabama
Member since Dec 2018
928 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:50 am to
Healthcare, I believe, will be another area that has been riddled with fraud…
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52548 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:54 am to
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Did you know that every single penny that is given to Israel has to be spent on American goods? They can't pocket the money . They can't spend the money on any other nation other than the United States.

When Israel gets one dollar of US money and spends it on an American good (likely defense) about 85% of that dollar covers the cost of the good and 15% is profit. I struggle to understand how this helps America.

Let’s imagine the transaction another way but yielding the same ultimate results. The American government pays the defense contractor the dollar and the defense contractor gives the good to Israel for free. Do you see that the net result is that America gave a good, that cost 85 cents, to Israel for free?

So the requirement that Israel buys from America might lower the impact by 15%, but it’s still hitting the American taxpayer for 85%.
Posted by Doctor B
Member since Jul 2024
1220 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:55 am to
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And yes, it appears Trump's plan is to tackle the debt

In fairness to Trump, there is no scenario where the debt was ever going to get dealt with effectively by anyone when billions of dollars have been flying out the door to USAID, Somali daycare, teacher's unions, other street-level random NGO dumbarses....
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19217 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:58 am to
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Did you know that every single penny that is given to Israel has to be spent on American goods?

We give them money, they spend it on military hardware here, then use their own money (since they're not having to spend it on defense) to provide free healthcare and education to their citizens. The latest $8.6B F-15 deal saves every Israeli family of four $3,822. That $3,822 is coming out of our great-great-grandchildrens' pockets....with interest.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 10:00 am
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25238 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:11 am to
It helps America (and the world) because it is keeping the Goddamn war off our own soil - Israel does all of our dirty work for us - they have killed and dismantled thousands of terrorists for us.

We have been giving Israel money for decades and now all of the sudden it's Trump that is selling us out? It's the same thing we have always done with Israel.

You people are fricking pathetic
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22835 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:12 am to
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Trump's Long Game

Is only three more years.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52548 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:22 am to
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You people are fricking pathetic

Hold on buddy. The question I was discussing was strictly an implication that the aid we give Israel is not costing us anything because they have to buy American. I lanced that argument as it deserved to be lanced.

You are criticizing me for strategic positions, for which there is no evidence I hold. In fact, I largely agree with what you posted in the rest of your otherwise ill-advised rant:
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It helps America (and the world) because it is keeping the Goddamn war off our own soil - Israel does all of our dirty work for us - they have killed and dismantled thousands of terrorists for us.


I think the time has come to begin ratcheting down our aid to Israel, but I think it has mostly been money well spent.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21292 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:31 am to
His long term plan is to be loud, say he’s fighting corruption, play golf, change the names of some things because that’s really important….. and continue to fund and kiss arse to Israel.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6083 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:35 am to
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Tmcgin

You people would be taken more seriously if your hypocrisy wasn't so thick. Not by much, but at least a little more seriously.

Think about that resolution going into 2026. Just takes looking at the 3 fingers pointing back at you before blurting out what you are thinking.

Ohhhh and get right with God.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6083 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:37 am to
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His long term plan is to be loud, say he’s fighting corruption, sit on the beach, change the names of some things because that’s really important….. and continue to fund and kiss arse to Ukraine.

Made a little change, and your projection sounds like your boy Biden.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 10:38 am
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
73 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:02 am to
Trump is a agent of destruction. That is why i voted for him. He is doing the dirty work now, for whatever motivation he has, that will lay the groundwork for what is to come.

I dont know if he realizes this or agrees with it, but I dont care. He is a tool to get where we need to be....and as with any tool, I dont care a thing about him personally.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31184 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:00 pm to
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We send billions to everyone you clown


I’m the clown and you’re defending giving billions to “everyone”

Ok
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3626 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:50 pm to
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He sold us out to Israel
Folks, we have a Jew hater.
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