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re: Trump's budget cuts 100% of the National Endowment for the Arts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:21 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:21 am to DawgsLife
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If it is proven that Trump recived payments from the Russian government indirectly will you say, or he didn't receive money from the Russians as you have with
Serrano?
First the NEA gave money to SECCA and the SECCA decided to give money to Serrano. No one at the NEA give money to Serrano.
Second, I'm not that bothered by Trump getting money from the Russians in that Putin was a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and he clearly has socialist and Marxist sympathies, so if you Trumpkins think Trump getting money from people sympathetic to communism is okay who am I to argue.
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:25 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Trump getting money from the Russians
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:25 am to roguetiger15
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Privatize it. No reason the tax payer should pay for shite like this.
This.
And the bonus to cutting it is the progressive melt we'll see here.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:31 am to Emiliooo
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And obviously, cutting this program will have a big impact on kids in the low end of the economic ladder.
That is such bullshite. In this day and age, children of all ages and economic backgrounds are exposed to "art": Music, visual art, etc. through all forms of media that did not exist when President Johnson enacted the endowment for the arts.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:59 am to Homesick Tiger
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I asked this yesterday. Still waiting on an answer.
This is interesting. I work at an institution of higher education and we are rated pretty high on the Carnegie Rating System for research.
Researchers who obtain grants do undergo some licensing issues with our university. Say a researcher creates a new marketable product (which several have on campus), the university is part owner.
I wonder if grants like the one given to the Hamilton guy has licensing issues attached. Does the Fed Govt have stipulations for profitable endeavors.
CDC, DOD, NIH are govt organizations that donates billions to research.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:22 pm to i am dan
To the guy who asked about paying back the grant, it's not a loan.
Also, the grant he got was after Hamilton was written.
Also, the grant he got was after Hamilton was written.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 1:43 pm to buckeye_vol
Fair enough 
Posted on 3/16/17 at 1:58 pm to Jjdoc
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Cost of security for Trump Tower: $183 million/year
Budget for National Endowment Arts/Humanities: $148 million/year
Posted on 3/16/17 at 2:47 pm to Toddy
Think of all the hungry people we can feed with this money Toddy!
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:24 pm to DawgsLife
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Can't a culture care about the arts without the government subsidizing it? I mean, do all other "civilized" countries subsidize the arts? And, if the public subsidizes the arts, doesn't that say much more than if the arts depend upon governmental support?
Of course it can...but the question is should it? It is a collective thing...yes, all civilized nations have always subsidized the arts....since time out of mind.
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he way to be involved witht he arts is by attending the events. (Museums, concerts, etc) NOT by forcibly taking their money and giving it to others. That is not supporting the arts.
There will be fewer opportunities to do so for the average person with out collective support.
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And yet, if our country does not stay secure nobody, rich, poor or in between will have the arts. You cannot force people to support things they do not want.
How would you feel if tax dollars were given to support churches, synagogues, Mosques and Temples? Those are beneficial to society, too.
ETA
FTR, I am against tax dollars being used to build sports stadiums, too.
We already spend more on defense than the next 26 nations combined....with Trump's proposed increases in defense spending we will be footing the bill of securing the planet to the tune of 40% of the costs....that means that 4.4% of the world's population is footing the bill for 93.6% of the rest of the world...if you are willing to accept that about half of Americans don't pay nay taxes that means that about 3% of the world's population is footing the bill for 40% of the world's security. I think we will be fine with the .01% of our spending going to the arts....and i don't even particularly believe in government support of the arts...but that little bit of money ain't gonna matter much...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:25 pm to ShortyRob
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we were not civilized before 1965?
We have subsidized the art since the beginning of this nation and we will continue to do so if this budget is passed....it is an important part of being civilized...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:29 pm to Emiliooo
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big impact on kids
Oh yeah the kids. It's always about the chilren.
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