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re: Trump will sign Executive Order Mandating Voter ID

Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 7:58 pm to
Liberal judge will rule that it is unconstitutional.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75085 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:00 pm to
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Liberal judge will rule that it is unconstitutional.

It wouldn't take a liberal judge on this one.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
3439 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:14 pm to
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But we already know that democrats will never vote for requiring ID to vote. Why do you think this is?

We all know why Dems don't want this. They don't want so it's easier to cheat.
Now the thing with a constitutional ammendment is that it's a vote of the States, not people popular vote. If just 34 states vote for the ID requirement it'll become law. Could 34 States vote for ID?
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6122 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:43 pm to
I'm really into states' rights unless the president I'm in a paranormal relationship with decides to take some away.

Of course, I also prefer when he does that through decree instead of through a legal system.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157306 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:49 pm to
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Now the thing with a constitutional ammendment is that it's a vote of the States, not people popular vote. If just 34 states vote for the ID requirement it'll become law.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:52 pm to
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When the system is broken in a way that prevents it from getting fixed you have to take a hammer to it and do some tapping.

This is literally, and I mean LITEARALLY why we have the Constitution. To prevent this exact scenario from happening.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:53 pm to
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I don't recall a single Republican - not even a single Trump Republican - saying "no national laws of any kind".

Which negates any argument for "states rights", you do realize that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:55 pm to
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I don’t know what that theory is, but you are, yet angain, leaving out important context such as WHO the battle is against.

Oh no I understand where the hypocrisy comes from.

When dealing with political principles, this "important context" only matters if your principles are only dictated by partisanship, which means you have no real principles.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:55 pm to
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You didn't think this through huh?

No, i did.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 8:56 pm to
No, but that doesn't mean it won't be.

Regardless of whether or not it'll pass the muster, for federal elections ID should be required. States can so whatever they want for statewide elections.

Really they should word it to where the states have a choice, and just disqualify a states electors if ID isn't required. Im sure there's a legal path that way, albeit still not an easy fight.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:02 pm to
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This is how it should be.


In person, with ID, on paper.



And dip your finger in the purple dye
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1625 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:05 pm to
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Idea is to get it to the USSC?


if I had to guess, it's more about giving democrats another hill to die on.. they will go all in ..like asking for ID to prove who you are before you vote is racist, etc. etc..same as they are all in on violent criminals/illegal aliens, trannies killing children.., etc.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 9:07 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:06 pm to
If Democrats are dumb, they'll make it about voter ID

If Democrats are smart, they'll make it about Trump acting like an authoritarian
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2369 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:07 pm to
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When the system is broken in a way that prevents it from getting fixed you have to take a hammer to it and do some tapping.


This is literally, and I mean LITEARALLY why we have the Constitution. To prevent this exact scenario from happening.


There is a zero percent chance that democrats will ever vote for more secure elections. I’m pretty sure that manipulation of elections for the benefit of a political party, by intentionally creating an avenue for fraud, while making post-election investigation of fraud impossible, is not LITERALLY why we have the have the constitution.

This is where your dumbass mindset gets obliterated by the left. You’re citing the constitution while locking arms with the very people who are going to destroy you.

The constitution is relevant to them only to the extent it advances the party. Once they gain control, they won’t give a shite about you or the constitution you are waiving in their face.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:11 pm to
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This is where your dumbass mindset gets obliterated by the left. You’re citing the constitution while locking arms with the very people trying to destroy you.

The Constitution limits them, too.

You let shite like this become legal and the next time they win the Presidency they'll have an EO making any ID or verification requirements illegal, same day registration mandatory, etc.

And all of you will have to support the method.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2369 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:16 pm to
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The Constitution limits them, too.


How many victories in appeals courts or USSC does the trump administration need to achieve before you realize that these people don’t give a shite about the constitution?

They aren’t acting with the constitution in mind. They know they are violating the constitution, and that judges who are friendly to the cause will rubber stamp whatever it is they come up with.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2369 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:22 pm to
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You let shite like this become legal and the next time they win the Presidency they'll have an EO making any ID or verification requirements illegal, same day registration mandatory, etc. And all of you will have to support the method.


They’re going to do this stuff regardless of what trump does.

Certain jurisdictions in NY tried to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections. They failed because New York State shut them down, but it’s eventually coming.

Certain jurisdictions in CA already allow non-citizen voting in local elections.

Which states and/or regions do you think are steering the left?

Absolutely I would not “have” to support that.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 9:25 pm
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
1216 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:22 pm to
Make election day a holiday too
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476475 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:29 pm to
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They’re going to do this stuff regardless of what trump does.

Federally? They have had the opportunity and never have.

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Certain jurisdictions in NY tried to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections. They failed because New York State shut them down, but it’s eventually coming.

It won't come if we maintain and defend the Constitution.

You're the one arguing that we shouldn't.

It's almost as if you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy or something.

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Certain jurisdictions in CA

More non-federal examples.

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Absolutely I would not “have” to support that.

So you only want your team to be able to violate the Constitution? That's intellectually consistent.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
2369 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 9:55 pm to
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Federally? They have had the opportunity and never have.


Rock solid logic here. Imagine explaining to someone from just 20 years ago that our own DOJ illegally spied on and facilitated an intentional disinformation campaign against a presidential candidate, and then another campaign against the same person while they were the sitting president in the very next election cycle?

Or having trannies on the Whitehouse lawn.

Or how we ended up with KBJ?

Or ordering citizens to take a vaccine and a covid test regimen while opening borders to allow 3rd world covid cases in the country?

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It won't come if we maintain and defend the Constitution. You're the one arguing that we shouldn't. It's almost as if you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy or something.


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More non-federal examples.


Again, who do you think is steering the left?

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So you only want your team to be able to violate the Constitution? That's intellectually consistent.


I dont have any illusions that the country as we know it is salvageable on this trajectory. I want my team to win, and I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not. I’m playing the game by the rules they created.
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