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re: Trump will make gay marriage federal law if SCOTUS overturns Obergefell

Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21666 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:51 pm to
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Plenty here hate them. There is literally a thread about wanting to throw them off the roof like the Muslims do


I don't hate em or you. If y'all want to do ur sodomite thing, more power to y'all.
Stop worrying about making others say it's normal, it's not.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16861 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:52 pm to
Why wait until it gets overturned? Just make it law now. Would be a big way to get moderates for midterms.

Or just get the govt out of marriage and abolish family courts.

ETA it would also be nice to see congress prove they can pass something other than a budget bill for once.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3206 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:53 pm to
Agreed
Posted by MongoSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2024
101 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:57 pm to
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depends on the ruling. Clearly there are interstate ramifications. It's a bit like Loving vs VA. A couple married in one state cannot be declared "unmarried" when they move to another.


Would that same theory apply to reciprocity for interstate carry laws?
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5522 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
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Tens of millions of gay, republican voters in America


No there are not.

154 million people voted in 2024. figs are definitely a liberal super majority as a base. Even if every gay voted for the GOP, it would still not be tens of millions. Unless you think 1/4+ of the country is gay


Whereas 85% of evangelists, compromising tens of millions of voters, support the GOP. If we are not going to ban abortion, not going to ban gay marriage, not going to support prayer in school, what exactly is the GOP offering other than tax cuts (and deficit increases)?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46064 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:07 pm to
I hope he wouldn’t, but that would be consistent with his views on homosexuality. He doesn’t have a biblical view of sexual sin.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27499 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:12 pm to
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It's been the opinion of many that have lived in this great country before me. Do you know why marriage isn't mentioned directly in the Constitution???? Because our founding fathers could never imagine a time that men fricking each other in the arse would be considered normal. If you and ur rump ranger butt buddies want to behave that way, that's fine. It's your prerogative. Just stop expecting the rest of normal society to condone it as normal, cuz it's not normal. Never has been and never will be.


Why do you, ostensibly an adult male, give a shite about strangers you don’t know marrying, or what they choose to do?

It seems like you’re the one sticking your nose in their business and passing judging them.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46064 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:17 pm to
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Why do you, ostensibly an adult male, give a shite about strangers you don’t know marrying, or what they choose to do?
It demeans a creation ordinance from God (as does no-fault divorce, BTW). Also, a nation that tolerates and even endorses gross sin should expect God’s judgment.

I don’t want the homosexual to receive God’s wrath, so I preach the gospel to him and call him to repent. I don’t want our nation to receive God’s wrath so I speak against tolerance of wickedness by the nation.

Believe it or not, but some people believe that morality extends beyond mere pragmatism and utility.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3602 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Trump doesn't hate gay people and has said multiple times that he supports their right to marriage. He has gay people in this administration. It's not going anywhere and he certainly isn't going to let the issue railroad the midterms. The only hilarious part will be if Democrats vote against enacting it just to try and spite Trump.
There goes the actual conservatives that voted for him. He can support it, but let the states decide. The second worse decision in the last 80 years needs to be overturned.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27499 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:21 pm to
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It demeans a creation ordinance from God (as does no-fault divorce, BTW). Also, a nation that tolerates and even endorses gross sin should expect God’s judgment. I don’t want the homosexual to receive God’s wrath, so I preach the gospel to him and call him to repent. I don’t want our nation to receive God’s wrath so I speak against tolerance of wickedness by the nation. Believe it or not, but some people believe that morality extends beyond mere pragmatism and utility.


Your scripture is your business. You don’t have the right to use your scripture as a cudgel to force judgment or behavior of other adults.

Agree with it or not, two guys or two women marrying have zero impact on your marriage. Do you believe otherwise?
Posted by geauxtigers
biloxi ms
Member since Nov 2003
2578 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by geauxtigers
biloxi ms
Member since Nov 2003
2578 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
7825 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:22 pm to
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Your scripture is your business. You don’t have the right to use your scripture as a cudgel to force judgment or behavior of other adults.


Gods word is everyone’s business. Don’t like it? Go move somewhere else atheist.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:23 pm
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5522 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Why do you, ostensibly an adult male, give a shite about strangers you don’t know marrying, or what they choose to do?


Every Christian should care. It is unnatural, a sin and will incur God's wrath

Timothy 1:7-11
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They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.


Romans 1:18-26

quote:

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27499 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:32 pm to
And?

None of that gives you the right to use your scripture to horn in on other’s business.

No one is forcing you engage in any of that, so what others choose to do is simply none of your concern; or it shouldn’t be.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5522 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:39 pm to
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None of that gives you the right to use your scripture to horn in on other’s business.


This is not a anarchist libertarian state, nor will it ever be. No country ever will be. It is a democracy, where for better or worse we all get to vote. My vote is we abide by scripture.

Or do you not really like democracy? Funny how liberals and libertarians only care about democracy when people vote the way they want them to
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27499 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:42 pm to
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This is not a anarchist libertarian state, nor will it ever be. No country ever will be. It is a democracy, where for better or worse we all get to vote. My vote is we abide by scripture. Or do you not really like democracy? Funny how liberals and libertarians only care about democracy when people vote the way they want them to


We are not a democracy. You should know that.

And if you want to abide by scripture as you say then you aren’t for democracy either; you’re for theocracy.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3206 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:42 pm to
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There goes the actual conservatives that voted for him


Lol, no. True conservatives believe in limited government. Faux conservatives want a theocracy.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28149 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:44 pm to
We really aren’t a democracy

We are meant to be a republic but with the way blue states and the democrats have used illegal aliens and extreme gerrymandering way past the points of red states to disenfranchise the majority of this country which is conservative, we are much more of an oligarchy currently
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:44 pm to
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. My vote is we abide by scripture.


What did Jesus say about laws regarding homosexual marriage?

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