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re: Trump warns major Jewish donor " “My people (voter base) are starting to hate Israel,”

Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:01 am to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:01 am to
I’m asking you to show me where the Israeli government “literally said” that their intention is to starve out innocent civilians.

***And I’m not trying to be snarky, if they said what you say they did, then I’ll stand corrected.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 1:04 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:41 am to
Bezalel Smotrich who is their finance minister said that they should limit the amount of food that goes in. They have some nothing to stop Israeli citizens from stopping aid. They have repeatedly fired upon people seeking food. And yes Hamas are complicit in this as well. They aren't innocent.

I'm surprised that anyone would bother having an opinion on any of this without knowing about the plan for greater Israel.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36756 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:49 am to
Finance Minister.

I don’t know what to consider what you’ve submitted thus far. Opinion is by its very nature absent of definitive, verifiable, irrefutable fact. It’s a personal belief and assessment absent conclusive fact.

What you’ve got there is not necessarily opinion, because you’re presenting it as conclusive fact. But it’s not fact because you keep making definitive claims without any evidence or proof. I suppose some might call it bullshite. If there’s a nicer way to say bullshite, someone help me out - I’m all ears.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 1:51 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55609 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:21 am to
quote:

Present day Israel is not the Israel of antiquity.

For starters, present day citizens of Israel are not Israelites.

Present day America is not the North America of antiquity.

For starters, present day citizens of America are not the North Americans of antiquity.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
2133 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 4:20 am to
Everybody in this thread has a point. From the Christians to the Moderates to the Extremists to the Atheist”s . So what do you do ? I’m no fan of Hamas or Islam, but even as a Christian, I’m starting to develop “Jew fatigue” . They (Jews & Media) have us (Christians) bent over a barrel. They are the “Chosen ones” according to the “Good Book”, but who wrote the Bible? I’ll give you one guess. Convenient huh ? I stumbled across an old “World Book Encyclopedia” from 1970, at my grandparents house. Thumbing through the “Israel” section, NOTHING has changed . I could print it out as “headline news” tomorrow, and nobody would know it was 55 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 4:57 am
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 4:59 am to
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And yes people are starting to hate Israel as they should.


an absolute lie

The people like you that hate Israel already hated them, but I'd expect nothing less from you
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 5:00 am to
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but even as a Christian, I’m starting to develop “Jew fatigue


congrats, the dems are getting to you and you area allowing it..
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
2133 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 5:05 am to
quote:

congrats, the dems are getting to you and you area allowing it..


So when is it enough ? We aren’t putting the US first. We put Israel first . Same as always
Posted by Ham Malone
Member since Nov 2010
2700 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 5:11 am to
Another part of the great noticing is how any thread on this board criticizing Israel gets anchored.
Posted by doze4
Greens burgs
Member since Aug 2007
2133 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 5:12 am to
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Another part of the great noticing is how any thread on this board criticizing Israel gets anchored.


Noticed that .
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1419 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 5:56 am to
quote:


Present day America is not the North America of antiquity.

For starters, present day citizens of America are not the North Americans of antiquity


Did this sound better in your head before you penned it to the message boards?
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42088 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 6:15 am to
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Here, check this out retard


Nice AI search clown.....it's pulling from sources pre October 7th

Go back to the Rant and troll there
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1033 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 6:33 am to
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Your idea is for these current children to grow up and murder each other's next generation of children, for the rest of time
So, just go ahead and kill them all, yes? Got it. Well, at least your way is quicker than starvation.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55609 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 9:39 am to
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Did this sound better in your head before you penned it to the message boards?

No, it sounded stupid from the get-go, which is how it was intended to sound. It was lost on you, wasn’t it?
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55351 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 10:41 am to
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I don't know if that's true but if it is we have a serious problem.


If Trump doesn't look out for Israel as Israel sees fit, then I predict that our next POTUS will be somebody, probably a Democrat, who will provide unquestioning support for Israel.

That's just what I believe. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. That may be the right thing to do in God's Eyes. I don't know. I'm just saying that's what I see happening - if a current POTUS doesn't provide unquestioning support for Israel, then the next POTUS will do so.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1910 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 12:28 am to
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To believe Israel is systematically starving an entire group of people, presumably innocent people is what you mean, you must also fully accept the premise that the claim that Hamas personnel across the affected area is NOT stealing the food and aid for their own profit and benefit, but instead that they’re being good little boys and not monkeying around with any of it



That is incorrect. I can believe that Israel is taking actions to starve to death all the Palestinians. I can also believe that the piece of shite Hamas are intercepting aid that is making its way in. That was kind of the whole point of my post.

The Palestinians have brought this upon themselves for supporting Hamas. Hamas are degenerate animals that deserve to die. Israel does not always act with honorable intentions and abuse the trust of American supporters. The world is not black and white and two things can both be true at the same time. We just need to stay the frick out of it.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1910 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 12:33 am to
quote]To believe Israel is systematically starving an entire group of people, presumably innocent people is what you mean, you must also fully accept the premise that the claim that Hamas personnel across the affected area is NOT stealing the food and aid for their own profit and benefit, but instead that they’re being good little boys and not monkeying around with any of it[/quote]


That is incorrect. I can believe that Israel is taking actions to starve to death all the Palestinians. I can also believe that the piece of shite Hamas are intercepting aid that is making its way in. That was kind of the whole point of my post.

The Palestinians have brought this upon themselves for supporting Hamas. Hamas are degenerate animals that deserve to die. Israel does not always act with honorable intentions and abuse the trust of American supporters. The world is not black and white and two things can both be true at the same time. We just need to stay the frick out of it.
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