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re: Trump vs Kirk.....who is right?

Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7203 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:43 pm to
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You realize there are plenty of people on here that admit to carrying in places like grocery stores


You do realize the vast difference between defending yourself and going looking for trouble? Pretti was the latter.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Touching an officer, repeatedly ignoring orders after the fact, & reaching for a gun have been the primary reasons cited on the /Pol/board. All of these are big, obvious no nos & have been since the beginning of time.


Notice how literally every single one of these new 2A converts, have left out that key detail.

Hey leftists, instead of leaving out the obvious detail that causes your arguments to dry up, and you ghost the thread, maybe come up with a different stupid argument?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6352 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:44 pm to
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Context matters, well not to you



Please, provide us the context
Posted by Jtomka
Member since Sep 2022
347 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:44 pm to
Are they in competition?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:46 pm to
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Please, provide us the context


Sure. Could you answer these questions first?

How often do you get involved with LEO's and insert yourself into police matters that don't concern you?

How often do you get in altercatiosn/fights with LEOs?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59333 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

So, the political party in charge gets to determine the context in which a citizen carry a gun and when? Really, you want that?


That isn’t what happened. This really is a pathetic troll.

Threatening a federal officer legally carrying out their job duties with a firearm is a crime and very different than simply carrying. You know that.

Try carrying a loaded weapon into the airport and bitch and moan about the TSA disagreeing with Charlie Kirk. You’re such a deep thinker.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122554 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:47 pm to
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Minding his own business


Now punishable by death.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:48 pm to
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Now punishable by death.


IF he was minding his own business, he'd be alive, chief.
Posted by Patato Salad
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
1194 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:55 pm to
In the videos I’ve seen, the officer walked across the street to confront him and pepper spray him. He did not provoke the officer. He touched the officer when trying to help the woman up (that the officer had pushed).

What orders were given? What orders were ignored? I have not been able to decipher any orders from the videos.

I have also not seen convincing evidence he reached for a gun. That would be a critical fact but the angles are inconclusive. For much of the time he was on the ground, I saw his hands were above his head on the pavement. Immediately before he was shot, it’s hard to tell exactly where they are.

I would welcome and consider any evidence you have which contradicts the above. I’m open to changing my opinion.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:56 pm to
Trump does not know context other than self involvement and self pleasure
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
3541 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:01 pm to
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You do realize that many democrats are gun owners right?




Yep I saw Tampon Timmie
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6352 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Sure. Could you answer these questions first?

How often do you get involved with LEO's and insert yourself into police matters that don't concern you?

How often do you get in altercatiosn/fights with LEOs?

I see you're more interested in parlor tricks, you're just providing a meaningless distraction.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:12 pm to
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I see you're more interested in parlor tricks


2 simple questions are a parlor trick to you? You slow or something?
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 1:12 pm
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17396 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:14 pm to
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I see you're more interested in parlor tricks, you're just providing a meaningless distraction.



They asked you two direct questions that are directly related to the incident that occurred. IMO you're the one being evasive
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37860 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:15 pm to
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It is all over this thread. Instead of having a gun being a right, many MAGA here are giving it conditions. "he had it coming", "you can't show up to a protest with a gun", "he got into an altercation so he had it coming".

That isn't being anti-2A. That's being logical, though abrasively. Did he "ask for it"? Not directly, but that's objective. Did he "have it coming"? I wouldn't say those words, but he certainly could have avoided it by minding his business.

It's easy to understand and recognize that in today's screwy world it's really easy for a "protest" to go sideways. Anything can and will happen. The situation in MN is volatile and the best course of action to prevent a bad situation with the highest degree of probability, is to avoid the potential of placing oneself in potential danger altogether.

Death comes for us all. And dude could have been out ice fishing and had an accident that killed him, sure. But he'd have at least been out ice fishing instead of protesting the lawful operations of federal agents. Probably could have caught himself some dinner too.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18505 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Oh look the sock puppet has something to say


Oh look it’s power bottom aka gravy guzzler.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1993 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Republicans have sure turned against the 2A all of a sudden.


2A does not apply to law breakers interfering in police work, simp.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20021 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:19 pm to
Kirk is right.

That dude just made a poor decision on when to kick off his personal civil war.

This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
1866 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:21 pm to
The US AG quote "I don't know of any peaceful protestor that shows up with a gun".

This is a hand picked Trump MAGA person who directly is saying having a gun means you must be a bad person with bad intentions. I just hope we keep that consistency when MAGA wants to protest something.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6352 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:23 pm to
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They asked you two direct questions that are directly related to the incident that occurred. IMO you're the one being evasive


I asked for the context needed to understand the claim made by Trump that is the topic of this thread… still waiting
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