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re: TRUMP: US Will Impose 100% Tariff on China Starting November 1st

Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:57 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 9:57 am to
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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:07 am to
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how many different blatant examples would it take?
Again, tie it to Trump cronies. Make your case. You haven't yet.

With regard to "rumors," the evidence of insider cronyism with regard to Hunter is not refutable. Nor were some of the ACA transactions (bipartisan btw). The issues with Pelosi's trades are also well documented. Feinstein's husband made a fortune off of insider government property deals. Again, well documented.

So yes, there are issues. I'm just pointing out that, as with the Obamacare stuff, they are about access to information regardless of cronyism. I never accused Obama of leaking ACA info to cronies as you are with Trump here. Biden is an entirely different matter.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:21 am to
Well we can’t, yet. All of the enforcement power is lead by the Trump admin who isn’t compelled to investigate Trump or his friends. Not to mention he personally has pretty much bullet proof immunity (scotus).

If/when the house flips the investigations will begin and we’ll see what we find. But to your point, that lack of proof right now doesn’t really suggest the truth is anything other than what’s painfully obvious.

You just don’t want to acknowledge it, which I understand.
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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:30 am to
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Not to mention he personally has pretty much bullet proof immunity (scotus).
Right. Tell it to the plaintiffs in TX v PA.

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doesn’t really suggest the truth is anything other than what’s painfully obvious.
That there is opportunity, motive and evidence of insider trading for anyone with access to the info, which is a wide catchment.

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If/when the house flips the investigations will begin and we’ll see what we find.
Unfortunately, if Trump or his cronies are involved, your group in the House (and the previous admin) shot its credibility in the previous "investigations."

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You just don’t want to acknowledge it
You're mistaken. I just go to where the facts lie.
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:40 am to
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He should have not listened to Bessent back in April and kept giving Commie China 90 day extensions. This has given China more time to prepare and reroute their products to other countries for export. China also knows any significant drop in the stock market and Bessent will be begging Trump for another 90 day extension because his Wall Street buddies can't tolerate a few thousand market sell off


This is the issue.

Have a plan. Say what you mean. Do what you say.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:42 am to
China will find new trading partners and make the software itself.

The US and Europe are forcing a strengthening alliance between China, Russia, and their allies.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:43 am to
The scotus immunity ruling was July 2024, 4 years after tx vs pa, what’s your point?

You’re right. The facts won’t lie. All of these trades have paper trails, literally black and white. Who’s presenting that data w names and dates is irrelevant unless you’re a total partisan hack. But I’m sure posters will come up with some goofy way to explain it away when faced w overwhelming evidence of corruption.

“Ya know, it’s Dems fault they didn’t insider trade harder when they had the chance!”





Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 10:52 am to
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This has given China more time to prepare and reroute their products to other countries for export.
$440B in exports to the US says you're wrong. No one's making that difference up. The delay has also given time for US importers to restructure their supply chains. Art of the Deal.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:08 am to
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The scotus immunity ruling was July 2024, 4 years after tx vs pa, what’s your point?
It's the same court.

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I’m sure posters will come up with some goofy way to explain it away when faced w overwhelming evidence of corruption.
You're sure of a lot of stuff you have limited reason to be sure of.
In some instances though, you may be right.

I'm sure if slamdunk evidence comes out that Trump cronies made bank on these insider transactions, there will be folks here defending them. For my part, I'd be disappointed and a little surprised if such evidence surfaces. Yet, if it does, so be it. I'll call it as I see it. E.g., I got plenty of DVs defending Paul Pelosi's option transactions, and Loeffler's as well. But a spade is a spade.
Posted by CastleBravo
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:11 am to
Finally. time to rip the bandaid off.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:19 am to
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The US and Europe are forcing a strengthening alliance between China, Russia, and their allies.
The US and EU account for 1/3rd of China's exports. That won't be made up by strengthened alliances between China, Russia, and their allies.

China is a state controlled economy. It needs to pay its workers enough for them to develop them as a reasonable consumer base. It needs to pay its workers enough for them to be able to afford many of the goods China now exports. Of course, higher wages would entail more expense in manufacturing, raising the cost of exported goods, so Xi is resistant.

We simply cannot allow the CCP to avoid that inconvenience at our expense.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21151 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 11:24 am to
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Do you have a point or are you just yelling at the clouds? This is a message board. Do you know what a message board is?


Yep, sure do. I guess you aren’t capable of understanding.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:10 pm to
Trump needs to negotiate with Xi first before he makes a decision. If the Chinese need us as much as you say, then they will agree to policies that benefit both sides. Forcing them to seek new trade partners might make things more difficult now, but the Chinese are resourceful and will likely succeed in the long run as new markets emerge and grow.

America and Europe need China if they want to contain Putin.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59567 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:19 pm to
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More market manipulation for his crony friends.

Buy the dip while it lasts (which is shorter and shorter every time he does this).


I scooped up some more XRP when the crypto mini-crash happened yesterday.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:31 pm to
And he probably gave them all a heads up as well.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7608 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:34 pm to
Which is why the USA should have good trading with India but unfortunately India plays China and USA against each other.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52610 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:37 pm to
Roger, You are the dumbass - you and the people who think we can continue our Polyannish China policy as they continue to execute their plans to conquer us.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52610 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:42 pm to
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America and Europe need China if they want to contain Putin

You have that completely backwards.

Russia has $2.2 trillion in nominal GDP and a population of 150 million
China has a $19 trillion GDP and a population of 1.4 billion
The US has a $30 trillion GDP and 340 million people
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:42 pm to
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America and Europe need China if they want to contain Putin.
Then we're in BIG trouble
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1809 posts
Posted on 10/11/25 at 12:45 pm to
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