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re: Trump urges Senate Republicans to eliminate the filibuster using the nuclear option
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:26 am to STEVED00
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:26 am to STEVED00
quote:If they do, they do, and the GOP will retaliate as happened with Judges. The country will get yanked from one tax scheme to another every two to four years. Same with regulations, lawfare, giveaways, etc. It will kill our economy.
So you feel the Democrats when back in power will show the same restraint and not go with the nuclear option?
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:26 am to UncleFestersLegs
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They eliminated it for all appointees except for SC Justices.
And how did that work out for them?
This is a classic MAD scenario, which is why only retards actually try to promote the policy.
I expected ART OF THE DEAL nonsense to effectively argue Trump is just lying to try to gain leverage. I was wrong. What we actually have is the retards taking over sincerely promoting removing the filibuster now.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:27 am to UncleFestersLegs
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They eliminated it for all appointees except for SC Justices.
I’m sure the response will be “Well that was different blah blah blah straw man”
ETA: and there it is.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 6:28 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:27 am to HailToTheChiz
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I mean the AOC segment and the future Mandamis.
aka Bill Deblasio. Note: the DEMs didn't sincerely push to remove the filibuster when he was in office.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:28 am to STEVED00
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I’m sure the response will be “Well that was different blah blah blah straw man”
ETA: and there it is.
That is specifically not what I posted, scholar.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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expected ART OF THE DEAL nonsense to effectively argue Trump is just lying to try to gain leverage. I was wrong. What we actually have is the retards taking over sincerely promoting removing the filibuster now.
The typical go to on insults when you have lost the argument
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:29 am to HailToTheChiz
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They will do it themselves if given the chance
"Let's do the dumb thing before they do"
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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Did they eliminate the filibuster under Biden or Obama? No.
Obama? Partially, yes.
Partially under Trump 1.0 as well
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In response to this extensive obstruction, Senate Democrats, led by Majority Leader Harry Reid, invoked the "nuclear option" in November 2013, changing Senate rules to require only a simple majority vote (rather than 60 votes) to end debate on most executive branch and judicial nominees (excluding Supreme Court nominees). Obama supported this rule change, stating that the filibuster was being abused as a "reckless and relentless tool to grind all business to a halt".
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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Except....they haven't?
Reid
Nuff said
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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I expected ART OF THE DEAL nonsense to effectively argue Trump is just lying to try to gain leverage. I was wrong. What we actually have is the retards taking over sincerely promoting removing the filibuster now.
So if the Rs put up legislation making solidifying the filibuster, the Ds would all be on board? Let’s just stop dancing around the bush here. If the filibuster is so important then make it where it can’t be removed.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:30 am to HailToTheChiz
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They will do it themselves if given the chance
If that’s the case then why waste it to extend SNAP benefits?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:31 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:so they did. Thanks
quote:
They eliminated it for all appointees except for SC Justices.
And how did that work out for them?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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That is specifically not what I posted, scholar.
Dude. You said it never happened under Obama yet it literally happened (and started) under Obama. Take your L
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:32 am to TigerAllNightLong
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that’s the case then why waste it to extend SNAP benefits?
Because he's weighing the political impact if Republicans do it to keep snap funded
I personally wouldn't do it but these days I really don't care
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:34 am to HailToTheChiz
Wouldn’t that require a vote? I doubt they could get 51 votes to do this.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:34 am to STEVED00
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Take your L
you don't seem to understand. Dis dude is NEVER wrong even when he isPosted on 10/31/25 at 6:36 am to HailToTheChiz
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The typical go to on insults when you have lost the argument
That is not an accurate description. And trying to base an argument on nothing but fear of potential future isn't an actual argument. However, I still addressed it directly and refuted it.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:37 am to UncleFestersLegs
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you don't seem to understand. Dis dude is NEVER wrong even when he is
Oh I understand.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:37 am to STEVED00
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So if the Rs put up legislation making solidifying the filibuster, the Ds would all be on board?
That's not really a relevant question. Probably not, but it means nothing because they're always going to be against what the Republicans want for basic political reasons. That's a completely different thing than having a sincere attempt to engage in the policy we're actually discussing.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Harry Reid reaching up from the grave would like to change his vote back no
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