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Trump Tweeting to SCOTUS to Drop Obamacare

Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:45 am
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:45 am
What is the alternative? The GOP never had a plan it was always a talking point.

This is where they collectively failed as a party. 2018 midterms was decided almost on a single issue, healthcare.

If they don’t come up with a viable option we will be getting Medicare for All and I hope everyone is prepared.

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Now that the very expensive, unpopular and unfair Individual Mandate provision has been terminated by us, many States & the U.S. are asking the Supreme Court that Obamacare itself be terminated so that it can be replaced with a FAR BETTER AND MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE ALTERNATIVE.....


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...Obamacare is a joke! Deductible is far too high and the overall cost is ridiculous. My Administration has gone out of its way to manage OC much better than previous, but it is still no good. I will ALWAYS PROTECT PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS,ALWAYS!!!


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Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29303 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:46 am to
I thought Obamacare had been slowly piecemealed away to not even exist anymore...

Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:46 am to
Where is the plan? If a better and cheaper alternative is presented to the American people, it would be a great campaign move.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2100 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:47 am to
Yes. Republicans get raked over this issue because there is no plan.

Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:48 am to
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This is where they collectively failed as a party. 2018 midterms was decided almost on a single issue, healthcare.


All these threads the past few days about “What’s Trump/Biden going to run on?” This topic was danced around a lot.

I would think people are even less inclined to fully embrace employer based healthcare when unemployment is over 10%
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:55 am to
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All these threads the past few days about “What’s Trump/Biden going to run on?” This topic was danced around a lot.

I would think people are even less inclined to fully embrace employer based healthcare when unemployment is over 10%



It would 100% be a winning issue for trump and gop if they had a plan.

Biden is running on expanding Obamacare and Medicare for All is the goal.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101436 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:56 am to
quote:

What is the alternative? The GOP never had a plan it was always a talking point.

This is where they collectively failed as a party. 2018 midterms was decided almost on a single issue, healthcare.



“The party” didn’t really want to do anything with it.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:58 am to
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he party” didn’t really want to do anything with it.




Which is hilarious because McCain and Romney and the whole gop won the house and senate back on Repeal and Replace.

Long before trump.

And they never had a fricking plan hahaha

It’s the epitome of why they lose and conservatives are just fed up with them.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22158 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:59 am to
Too soon to release a GOP plan. Strategically, the Dems and media would spend months making false claims, and low info voters won’t look into it for themselves.

Might be best to drop the plan in a debate, and show Biden fumbling for why it’s bad, and why we should pay more for ObamaCare.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:01 am to
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Republicans get raked over this issue because there is no plan.


Makes you wonder what these lazy POS do all day
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73739 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:01 am to
How do you know he doesn't have a plan?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:01 am to
This is the one area I think Rand could be helpful.
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:03 am to
I don't want republicans to have a plan beecher I don't want gover run healthcare. Their plan needs to be to stay out of that business.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:06 am to
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How do you know he doesn't have a plan?



Because the GOP as a whole doesn’t have a plan...

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101436 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:06 am to
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Too soon to release a GOP plan. Strategically, the Dems and media would spend months making false claims, and low info voters won’t look into it for themselves.


As opposed to what?
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:09 am to
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Where is the plan? If a better and cheaper alternative is presented to the American people, it would be a great campaign move.




Republican establishment is far too entrenched with health insurers and big pharmaceuticals.

The ideal situation would be to

1. stop forcing insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions (massively lowering private sector deductibles and premiums)

2. lower the income thresholds for Medicaid (transferring more consumers into the private sector, further lowering deductibles and premiums)

3. move anyone that has been denied coverage for pre-existing conditions onto Medicaid and/or Tri-Care

4. force insurers to offer plans to all buyers nationwide

5. patent reform + price controls on a large swath of the most frequently prescribed drugs to match the prices paid by other countries

6. on-shoring production of prescription drugs as a public safety concern

But we are too far down the path. By the end of 2021, there's going to be a "Medicare Buy In" and then it's just a matter of time before the industry is essentially nationalized. Taxes will shoot up, premiums won't go down, some people are going to get absurdly rich.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 9:11 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73739 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:10 am to
That's not what I asked

But typical response from you
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10054 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:18 am to
The plan should be to remove it and all government sponsored healthcare that is not for government employees.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5026 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:19 am to
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What is the alternative? The GOP never had a plan it was always a talking point.



The plan was the Graham-Cassidy plan. That was going to be the GOP alternative to the ACA.

It block granted the Obamacare taxes back to the states. The states would then use that money and would then be left to design/implement their own healthcare delivery system. In other words, the Republican plan was federalism. If a state wanted to keep Obamacare, they could keep Obamacare. If a state wanted a free market approach, they could institute a free market approach. If a state wanted to try universal care they could try universal care.

If the Graham Cassidy would have been voted in we would now have "50 different on going experiments" on how to best deliver healthcare. We would have been able to determine what works and what doesn't. What delivers the best care per dollar etc.

Nothing is perfect, but that is a plan that would have worked.

You asked what the GOP alternative was...that was it.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:23 am to
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It would 100% be a winning issue for trump and gop if they had a plan.

Biden is running on expanding Obamacare and Medicare for All is the goal.



don't you get heath insurance through your employer or are you a poors?
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