re: Trump to withhold Federal disaster $ from States that boycott Israeli business

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The CIA installed the shah of Iran. I think we made our own enemy in Iran.

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No argument there and the Brits are to blame as well

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Which dirty work are you talking about the US doing for Israel. Israel has fought the Arabs in 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and 2023–present. I don't remember US troops being involved in any of the wars.

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We've assisted in Iraq, Iran, Lybia, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen over the years for starters. And have provided plenty of aid and weapons. We're now supporting their efforts in Gaza. There is no argument at this point to state that they're a stabilizing force in the region. And it has likely hurt our position internationally.

I've just about addressed each one of your talking points with reasonable responses. At some point you have to ask yourself if you're the one that has been sold a bunch of lies.

If you're an evangelical, read about the origins of the Scofield bible and who published it. And then read the Talmud and you'll understand it was never about helping Christians. Several Protestants movements were funded by Jews in order to undermine Christian unity. The modern day Israel is nothing close to the biblical Israel.

If you're a Zionist Jew, then there's not much I say to change your mind. You Israelis are stubborn and a walking stereotype of every bad thing ever said about Jews. So much so that Mossad's official slogan for the longest of time was "By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War". (and you boys sure sure did succeed with Iraq). For your own spiritual sake, stop being a war hungry Zionist. Be a better Jew that knows peace and then give the teachings of Christ a try. You want to reclaim your rightful piece of the promised land? Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.

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The only lessons the Arabs have learned is to employ propaganda, taught to them by their cold war era sponsors the communist USS

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Thankfully the western allies of the Israelis never use propaganda.

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. The tactics of the Arabs are despicable

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Same could be said if the Israelis. It has morphed into a rogue nation state and even foreign ministers and holocaust survivors hold that opinion.

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And the blowback the Jews are getting from this younger element in our country speaks poorly of their education and knowledge of history. It is obvious they do not know the history of the region.

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You're confusing and conflating Jews with Israelis. Maybe you could learn some history lessons as well. Or maybe you think you know everything.

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which is considering yourself superior to Jews.

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That's assuming I think like a Zionist Jew supremacist and believe that Christianity is a birth right passed down through blood.

It's not. Anyone can be saved.

If you're a true believer in the prophecy, then you'd believe that the goal is to fill Israel with Christians. This is why we are taught to spread the faith to anyone and everyone, including those who falsely claim to be 'God's chosen people's despite the old testament being fulfilled.

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I guess you're one of those woke dumbasses who thinks that anybody white (and yes, Israel is seen as being white internationally) has to bow down to anyone red or brown or black if they took their land at some point.

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Buddy, that's not my argument. I'm simply pointing out the fallacy in geoag58's logic that anyone with any type of historical claim to any land can reclaim it for their own.

As far as Israel being white, you've just further proved my point on that they have no claim, so it makes the entire argument moot on whether they have a historical claim or not.

So that ends that silly argument started by geoag58.

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Which dirty work are you talking about the US doing for Israel. Israel has fought the Arabs in 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and 2023–present. I don't remember US troops being involved in any of the wars. There is a right side in this and a wrong side. The younger generation needs to quit seeing this as gray. The Arabs need to leave Israel alone.

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And Israel needs to fight their wars with money earned by Israelis, not money earned by some couple in Shreveport working four jobs and missing out on their kids growing up because they’re forced to pay for a pissing match on the other side of the globe.

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Then they have a claim.

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Now you're arguing something entirely different. This is like saying that if a thief steals your car, it's his now because he's able to hold it in his possession.

You just made an even sillier argument than GeoAg58.

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That's not the only criteria someone can use to feel superior.

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So what's the criteria you think I used?

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Now you're arguing something entirely different.

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No, that's the first time I said anything about Israel and the land. It's the only argument I have made for that.

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This is like saying that if a thief steals your car, it's his now because he's able to hold it in his possession.

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By that logic, the United States owes all of our land to Indians and we don't own any of it legally.

What you're missing is that in the world of international affairs, being able to take something and keep it includes negotiating the blowback from other countries who have a vested interest in either keeping peace or the land being fought over. Since other countries are the only "law" in the equation.

It's almost like comparing individuals to countries is a fatally flawed analogy...

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You just made an even sillier argument than GeoAg58.

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Did I? Well then, the US is a country of criminals, as is pretty much every other country on the planet, because that's where your idiot logic takes us.

When are we turning the land back over to the Comanches and Creek Indians?

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So what's the criteria you think I used?

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The one you stated. Not that it matters exactly what that criteria was; you were attempting to set up an obviously false dilemma by assuming that there were no alternative conclusions when there very obviously are.

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withhold federal funds to states for not doing what they want them to do

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It’s well beyond that. Constitutionally only the federal government has the authority to negotiate international treaties which includes trade agreements. Individual states cannot set trade policy except with other states. So if the federal trade agreement says we’re trading with nation “x” then it is insurrection for an individual state to openly boycott nation “x”.

It would be like a state saying they are going to defy DC and openly trade with Russia.

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you were attempting to set up an obviously false dilemma by assuming that there were no alternative conclusions when there very obviously are.

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You are extremely confused buddy. That's not the argument I started. It's the argument I set out to showcase how foolish it was. But for some odd reason, you think I'm the one who started it.