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re: Trump to Impose External Tariff on Farmers?

Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:23 pm to
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Woohoo, on our way to being Venezuela, one step at a time.


Nah, more like Pinochet’s Chile
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:25 pm to
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Correct. External products are imports.

I hope they exclude eggs, because if not their plan to import them won't go well.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:26 pm to
We import eggs?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71915 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:28 pm to
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We import eggs?

We plan to. Gonna bring them in by the tens of millions.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:29 pm to
By June egg prices will plummet as the normal number of hens will be back online.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71915 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:29 pm to
Hey, it ain't my plan.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2151 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:31 pm to
He’s putting a tariff on ag products coming into the US. US farmers can export as much as they want outside the US but they likely won’t because demand in the US will increase.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:33 pm to
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He’s putting a tariff on ag products coming into the US. US farmers can export as much as they want outside the US but they likely won’t because demand in the US will increase.


Do you have any source clarifying his quote? He emphasized American farmers selling INSIDE the US. No need to do that if you were just going to tax imports.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9788 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Farmers don't make shite shipping things around the world.


LOL. I can promise you that our best produce goes overseas and farmers make money on it. Even the packaging is better on the really good stuff.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63770 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Grains and corn aren't shipped via FedEx


That doesn't make the shipping free? Confused as to your point

Obviously individual farmers dong pay to ship grain (though generally we do pay to haul grain to the elevators/gins or pay someone else to) directly but it's still factored into what they are paid
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:43 pm to
I think Trump use of the word external is for branding purposes as in the External Revenue Service, ERS, (opposed to the IRS).

Tariffs are taxes on imports. Not taxes on exports. Imports are external goods and products. Exports are internal goods and products.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9788 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:44 pm to
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He is increasing the Food Supply in the US to bring down Food Prices.


From the produce side of things he won’t be. We export extraordinary amounts as is because we produce too much for our markets alone. If he’s attempting to keep produce on the domestic side he’s going to drive those markets down due to the glut of product. What he is going to do is make your out of season produce more expensive. We aren’t always in season and it’s a helluva lot more than avocados.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25176 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:56 pm to
I do, but the profit margins are very slim (with shipping and import tariff fees to other countries.) If they keep it in America because the demand in America will increase drastically, shipping costs are drastically reduced and there are no tariffs which means much higher profit margins.

Do you even think? Surely you didn't think that products just magically get produced and at the wave of a wand they magically just show up for free across the world?.. Or did you really believe that? I can't tell with some of you people these days.

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because we produce too much for our markets alone


Not the right farmers. The only farmers that do are the farms ran and dominated by the Government. This is going to allow for small farmers to actually return back to work. The Gov squeezed every small farmer out of business with fricked up stupid regulations so there's only a handful of multi billion dollar companies that do all of the farming in America. This will actually help the little guy finally compete.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4756 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:59 pm to
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Honestly, from that jumbled mess of a tweet he made it is really anyone's guess what he means.


Maybe this was the RAW earths he was talking about the other day
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:08 pm to
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From the produce side of things he won’t be. We export extraordinary amounts as is because we produce too much for our markets alone. If he’s attempting to keep produce on the domestic side he’s going to drive those markets down due to the glut of product. What he is going to do is make your out of season produce more expensive. We aren’t always in season and it’s a helluva lot more than avocados.


I agree but there might be something else missing from this equation.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63770 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:23 pm to
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Not the right farmers. The only farmers that do are the farms ran and dominated by the Government. This is going to allow for small farmers to actually return back to work. The Gov squeezed every small farmer out of business with fricked up stupid regulations so there's only a handful of multi billion dollar companies that do all of the farming in America. This will actually help the little guy finally compete.


I'm on Trump's side of this but I don't really see the business killing regulation on the grain side of things.....there are A TON of small time grain farmers who have operated for decades. So I don't really agree with what you said here

Input prices are crazy on the chemical, seed, fertilizer side of things and some of that may be partly the result of regulation but it isn't some black and white direct thing

There are so many things that could help small farmers whether it be seed cost, chemical cost, equipment costs (my god) but I don't see an obvious way to effectively reduce any of them which leaves increasing yields or market prices which is also a difficult task
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9788 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:26 pm to
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I agree but there might be something else missing from this equation.


Yeah, “farmers” covers a lot of ground so there definitely could be more to it. I singled out produce for a reason. Its what I did for quite some time. Maybe other commodities, let’s say grains, could be different. I wouldn’t have any idea there.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9649 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:32 pm to
This tariff change will not be viewed well by the Cali Almond growers …. they soak up massive amounts of water to grow a crop that is primarily for export
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85055 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:04 pm to
Sounds like you are brain damaged
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33410 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:23 pm to
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This is actually great news. Farmers don't make shite shipping things around the world. It's too expensive. Since incoming farm products will be tariffed, then that makes the demand in America much greater for the farmers which they will make a shitload more money

And lessens the demand for migrant employment
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