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re: Trump to Big Pharma - "We are going to end Global Free-Loading" - BOOM!

Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:31 am to
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:31 am to
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There's so much silliness in your post it's difficult to know where to begin.
And yet you're the poster wanting to compare real estate prices to drug companies' prices.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:31 am to
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How do we trick the drug manufacturers into selling enough drugs in Canada (roughly the population of California alone) for the pill-crazed US population of 10X as many people?

Let's start there and work our way backwards.


Canadians are going to have to pay more for pills. They'll start having to actually bear some of the freight cost on equilibrium prices.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:32 am to
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There's a little more to it than that, NC.
When you boil it down, there really isn't.

Hillary Clinton proposes legalizing prescription-pill imports from Canada
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:33 am to
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And yet you're the poster wanting to compare real estate prices to drug companies' prices.


Lol. Pick any product. You conveniently avoided my second question.

I do enjoy your Mutt and Jeff act in this thread.

Posted by therick711
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:34 am to
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And yet you're the poster wanting to compare real estate prices to drug companies' prices.



I think you missed the analogy. What I took from the post was the same thing can be priced differently in two different markets based on factors other than the inherent qualities of the thing.

In his analogy, the "same house" had different market values based on its location. In pharmacy, the same item has different prices based on the US having to bear the burden of Pharma's margins.

You're hung up on the wrong part, which was you correctly identified location as the differentiating factor. You just didn't correctly identify the parallel logic.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:34 am to
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How do we trick the drug manufacturers into selling enough drugs in Canada
We introduce you to a world map and to a continent named "Europe".
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:35 am to
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How do we trick the drug manufacturers into selling enough drugs in Canada (roughly the population of California alone) for the pill-crazed US population of 10X as many people?


And even if you duped pharma, how many more distributors would we need in Canada to supply the US? No one here will willingly pay the US prices now, so how would the Canadian market possibly have enough supply? And with all those extra distributors, they will need their profit to, plus demand will be crazy, so prices already begin increasing for the "canadian" product.
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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:35 am to
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Canadians are going to have to pay more for pills. They'll start having to actually bear some of the freight cost on equilibrium prices.


That's only part of the equation. There's a lot of pills that Canada pays $0 for because they don't cover them.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:36 am to
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That's only part of the equation. There's a lot of pills that Canada pays $0 for because they don't cover them.


Certainly, just a market response that no one had identified yet in this thread in response to the importation of so-called foreign drugs.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:36 am to
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And even if you duped pharma, how many more distributors would we need in Canada to supply the US?


And how do you guarantee drugs reimported from Canada are actually from Canada?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:37 am to
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Many companies invest much of their profits into R&D.


Nope
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:38 am to
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I think you missed the analogy. What I took from the post was the same thing can be priced differently in two different markets based on factors other than the inherent qualities of the thing.

I didn't miss the point. He did.

He thought he was explaining WHY drugs are much cheaper outside the U.S.

He failed.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:38 am to
You appear to have missed the point. If you got it, you have a funny way of showing it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:39 am to
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He thought he was explaining WHY drugs are much cheaper outside the U.S.


So your theory is that demand and willingness to pay has zero effect on US drug prices. Sounds legit.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:40 am to
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how do you guarantee drugs reimported from Canada are actually from Canada?
The same way those guarantees apply in our current market, and in Canada's.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:41 am to
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The same way those guarantees apply in our current market, and in Canada's.


So another layer of regulation and checking. That shouldn't effect cost.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:41 am to
Not talking exclusively about Russian, but one of the things I have noticed is that many people on this Board stuggle with analogies.

You'll make an analogy to demonstrate parallel reasoning and the response you always get back is those two things aren't EXACTLY ALIKE so the analogy is bullshite.

Meanwhile, in the rest of the world an analogy is using two different things to show parallel reasoning.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:42 am to
Jesus dude - go watch soccer or something
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:42 am to
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So another layer of regulation and checking. That shouldn't effect cost.


We already have a system that very easily tracks origin on all kinds of products, including drugs. This is a non-issue.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:43 am to
Russian is just playing a role in the thread. He came into the thread asking questions but just was playing NcTigah's straight man. He wasn't going to take any answer that didn't fit what he already thought. It didn't have anything to do with anything other than that.
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