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re: Trump talking Iran negotiations.Seems to be quite a few Iranian propaganda fans here today

Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:42 am to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:42 am to
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Pulling out NOW is absolutely a short term / election win… but it undeniably makes Iran an overall 2-term strategic disaster for Trump, unless the regime collapses.


Just yesterday you were saying that pulling out of there and leaving it to Iran's neighbors was the best case scenario.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40308 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:44 am to
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I'm speaking to the myriad of people on social media openly saying they trust Iran more than Trump.



But that’s part of the equation whether you wanna admit it or not. You can blame it on TDS, but the fact is we’re in the midst of a war and people don’t believe the US president.

ETA: my replies are gonna be fricked up because I’m driving right now
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 9:45 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71225 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:44 am to
I put that one in the do not talk bag. He can't eliminate his doomcasting hyperbole, nor does he see the irony in his silver bullet argument being "MAGA" flip flopping as he assumes the opposing view point every time.
Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
Member since Mar 2025
492 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:44 am to
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Imagine seeing your POTUS say one thing, the Iranians say the opposite, and thinking the Iranians are the ones being honest.


I agree, it’s a shame we have a President who’s word carries such little value
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97037 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:44 am to
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You prefer we didn’t negotiate?



We have some bloodthirsty mofo's on here lately
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71225 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:45 am to
Thank you for stepping up to the be butt of my point.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13972 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:45 am to
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the fact is we’re in the midst of a war and people don’t believe the US president


Because they’re easily manipulated sheep.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:45 am to
Why on God screen earth would you be so dumb as to believe a single thing that Donald Trump says?
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13972 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:46 am to
Because of sheeple like yourself
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:46 am to
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Any other outcome & we just spent a ton of money to temporarily set them back, probably made future diplomacy impossible, and provided ammunition to hardliners in the regime to say “see, I told you …we can either be Libya or North Korea”. Pulling out NOW is absolutely a short term / election win… but it undeniably makes Iran an overall 2-term strategic disaster for Trump, unless the regime collapses.


It’s sunk cost. We don’t HAVE to do anything except what is in our best interests.
The Iranians won’t trust Trump and Netanyahu again, but the next administration can start fresh.

Before you ask the question of whether we should do regime change in Iran, you should answer the question of whether we are able to do it.
I believe Trump overestimated our abilities and now is trying to extricate us without doing irreparable damage to American interests.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13972 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:47 am to
Trump (who gets daily intel briefs) > Iranian propaganda
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24575 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:47 am to
They have uranium and the strait. They have all the leverage.
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4401 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:48 am to
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What’s retarded about what I’m saying?


SFP (your Dad) would actually be proud of you.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90771 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:50 am to
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They have uranium and the strait. They have all the leverage.

Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13972 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:51 am to
lol you outed yourself yesterday using AI to post for you
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12003 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:51 am to
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Before you ask the question of whether we should do regime change in Iran, you should answer the question of whether we are able to do it.


Oh, we are able to. But that would require us going in and occupying another middle eastern country and that is the part nobody wants to do. Iran isn't Iraq. Geographically. Occupying that country would take lots of troops and they would be there for quite awhile.

This was never our aim.

From the very beginning Trump said they're going to destroy the Iranian military's capabilities and leave it to their own citizens to reclaim their country. And now they're leveraging Iran's neighbors to take ownership of this situation as well.

Iran's neighbors have a vested interest in installing a better government there as well. How many of their neighboring countries have been attacked by Iran since this began? Also, all nations who do business in the Strait of Hormuz also have an interest in stabilizing the region.

The better play for the US is to tell these other countries to go in there and help stabilize the situation and for the US to walk away from it.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9788 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:52 am to
He’s trying to manipulate the markets. The Iranians, who have a shite ton of leverage right now, have denied that talks have taken place. What a disaster.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90771 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:52 am to
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He’s trying to manipulate the markets. The Iranians, who have a shite ton of leverage right now, have denied that talks have taken place. What a disaster.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12003 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:53 am to
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The Iranians, who have a shite ton of leverage right now,


Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71225 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:53 am to
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But that’s part of the equation whether you wanna admit it or not. You can blame it on TDS, but the fact is we’re in the midst of a war and people don’t believe the US president.


Part of what equation? I don't think DEG's dumbass is affecting decisions on Iran, for example.

The TDS "believe anyone but Trump" idea was baked in before the first bomb dropped. They have no credibility and no more power than they have had since Jan 20, 2025.
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