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re: Trump should demand a vote on term limits ...
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:17 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:17 am to GetCocky11
The only way is to target the most egregious establishment Republican congressmen in Congress and to rally voters to primary them out. It would not be hard to do with the bully pulpit but it would be an open political civil war. However, I think voters would rally to his cause over the establishment politicians.
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:19 am to Cajun Cricket
It would probably go as well as his other attempts at legislation.
Face it folks. The Trump administration is a shite show.
Face it folks. The Trump administration is a shite show.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:20 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:No. There's a real danger to the investment of that kind of executive power and [military] command authority in one person for too long a time. And history distant and recent is riddled with examples. We're justified in saving ourselves from ourselves in that case.
Shouldn't this apply to the office of president also then?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:20 am to Dick Leverage
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The only way is to target the most egregious establishment Republican congressmen in Congress and to rally voters to primary them out. It would not be hard to do with the bully pulpit but it would be an open political civil war. However, I think voters would rally to his cause over the establishment politicians.
The House had a 97% reelection rate last year. It is very hard to beat an incumbent Rep.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:21 am to Navytiger74
You'd be surprised at how surprising I can be.
How did I know you were a "country club" brother though? One of seems to be more perceptive than the other.
I likely play tennis from time to time in place you would not be comfortable. I love it because my tennis "brothers" there won't let me leave until we finish all the beer.
They all have nicknames and I've been told mine is coming. I asked for Casper or Lilly but they said it wouldn't be that easy.
How did I know you were a "country club" brother though? One of seems to be more perceptive than the other.
I likely play tennis from time to time in place you would not be comfortable. I love it because my tennis "brothers" there won't let me leave until we finish all the beer.
They all have nicknames and I've been told mine is coming. I asked for Casper or Lilly but they said it wouldn't be that easy.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:21 am to GetCocky11
quote:Roadgator didn't vote for his incumbent, though. He's different.
The House had a 97% reelection rate last year. It is very hard to beat an incumbent Rep.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:22 am to roadGator
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I asked for Casper or Lilly but they said it wouldn't be that easy.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:25 am to germandawg
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Why do y'all want to limit a free people's ability to choose who they want to represent them in Washington? We have the best kind of term limits available to a free people today...the voting booth....
On the surface, yes. The problem is these bozos spend their whole term trying to get re-elected to another term, and they're easily bought.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:27 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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If only there was a way we could make that happen
I'm trying to think how many times an incumbent goes unopposed from fellow party members.
So the choice is often two people that I don't want and one of those loves taking us closer to socialism.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:32 am to roadGator
I'm trying to think of all the times I've only had two options on the ballot.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:34 am to Navytiger74
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No. There's a real danger to the investment of that kind of executive power and [military] command authority in one person for too long a time.
And you don't think giving power to groups of people, Congress, can not be just as detrimental as a president with too much power? My response to germandawg was about making the point of "voting" being considered a form of term limiting. I just responded the same can be said about the office of president - he can be term limited by voters just like congressional members can be if there were no official term limit to a president.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:36 am to Homesick Tiger
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And you don't think giving power to groups of people, Congress, can not be just as detrimental as a president with too much power?
Nope.
You do understand how Congress works, right?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:37 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Well, I've given us both something to think about then.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:39 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:No way. We're talking legislative vs executive power and we're talking a single person (or at least unitary office) vs a pack of squabbling lawyers who are incapable of moving with dispatch.
And you don't think giving power to groups of people, Congress, can not be just as detrimental as a president with too much power?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:39 am to roadGator
I have my answer. It's zero.
Let me know when you have yours so we can discuss.
Let me know when you have yours so we can discuss.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:42 am to Navytiger74
Being the only white guy in a black neighborhood park that doesn't have the best reputation for safety never bothered me because those guys wouldn't let anything happen. I feel fine there except for one thing.
It must be like the lone black guy at a party.
Some of the guys ignore me and likely don't want me there based on their facial expressions. Some of the guys just try to beat me at tennis (many can as they have some really good players -- sandbaggers) and are cordial. Then there are guys that seem to go out of their way to be friendly to me as is they want to be seen as being nice to the lone white feller.
That experience has created a lot of angst for me as I don't want to seem like that guy who is only being nice because "you" are black and I want to be that guy that is above it all.
It's really kind of interesting to review in my mind.
It must be like the lone black guy at a party.
Some of the guys ignore me and likely don't want me there based on their facial expressions. Some of the guys just try to beat me at tennis (many can as they have some really good players -- sandbaggers) and are cordial. Then there are guys that seem to go out of their way to be friendly to me as is they want to be seen as being nice to the lone white feller.
That experience has created a lot of angst for me as I don't want to seem like that guy who is only being nice because "you" are black and I want to be that guy that is above it all.
It's really kind of interesting to review in my mind.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:48 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I'll take a look at the available candidates on a recent election later.
I'm guess there was an R a D and a couple of wild cards with no shot at winning.
I'd like to see two Rs facing off and maybe even two Ds. Selfishly, that will open it up for the wild cards but we know the parties won't allow that to happen for that very reason.
I'm guess there was an R a D and a couple of wild cards with no shot at winning.
I'd like to see two Rs facing off and maybe even two Ds. Selfishly, that will open it up for the wild cards but we know the parties won't allow that to happen for that very reason.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:48 am to Navytiger74
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squabbling lawyers who are incapable of moving with dispatch.
And in my world that's exactly why they should be term limited. If they're doing nothing then force them out. Voting is not enforcement, just an option that involves the ignorance of voters.
We have term limits here in Ark. for state politicians and it's working just fine imo. It would work on a national level also if politicians weren't scared shitless of losing their power and having to revert to living in the real world like the rest of us.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:09 am to GetCocky11
434 Congressmen have rock bottom approval ratings. The Congressman in your district has a sky high approval rating.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:11 am to Cajun Cricket
It would only grow the swamp by empowering the unelected and unaccountable
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