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Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:29 pm to Tiguar
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I believe you believe this.
Oh, I absolutely do. Do you think FDR made such a stupid reassignment of responsibility? It would behoove Trump to admit his responsibility in this. He is, after all, the Commander In Chief. These 10.000,000 Americans (about to be 20 million) who have lost their jobs the past two weeks aren't going to be blaming their respective governors and senators.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:31 pm to Toddy
I’m more referring to you thinking a sovereign nation attacking American soil is equivalent to a nebulous virus we at the time didn’t even really understand
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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In America, public health and hospital systems are state issues.
That may be so. No excuse for the federal government to be so woefully unprepared for this though. It's almost criminal. You think these millions of Americans now without a job are going to blaming their states.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:32 pm to Toddy
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It's very telling that Trump wants to shift blame to the states for not being prepared for a global pandemic.
Per the concept of the country and CONSTITUTION, the federal govt possesses only enumerated powers and the rest go to states, COMMIE
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If only he had taken the recommendations of the Economic Council whose findings are posted on the White House website.
Sure did a better job than Obama, China, and Italy that's for sure
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If only he hadn't waited almost two weeks to declare a public health emergency after the first confirmed infection.
If only Obama didn't wait until 1,000 Americans died to declare swine flu a national emergency whereas Trump declared this national before the death toll reached 200 but partisan hacks gotta partisan hack yknow man frick you TRAITOR
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Can you imagine Franklin Roosevelt telling the states in WWII they were own their own if the Germans attacked them?
Federal govt has exclusive power over war so your point doesn't even make sense STFU loser
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:33 pm to Toddy
quote:States have enormous public health power and much more control over how their hospital systems operate. States have the power to buy equipment.
Toddy
By the way, where are you even getting the idea that trump is not trying to help states? He has said repeatedly the federal government will help, but states need to work hard too.
Individual states don't have national security powers.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:33 pm to Toddy
quote:I can't image FDR or Trump saying that. You should be mad at whoever misled you.
Can you imagine Franklin Roosevelt telling the states in WWII they were own their own if the Germans attacked them?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:34 pm to wope
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:34 pm to Toddy
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Can you imagine Franklin Roosevelt telling the states in WWII they were own their own if the Germans attacked them?
This is really no different.
It's very different
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:35 pm to Toddy
quote:Ok. So why aren't you mad a Pelosi? How much did she appropriate for the response in January? How many bills did she propose for medical supply purchase?
No excuse for the federal government to be so woefully unprepared for this though. It's almost criminal.
The problem is... you have no interest in holding government responsible for this. You just want to hold one man responsible for it. And that's petty, silly, and childish.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:35 pm to Toddy
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No excuse for the federal government to be so woefully unprepared for this though. It's almost criminal.
I am seeing nothing but great cooperation between public and private sector to get the hospitals the gear they need. We are building makeshift hospitals all over the country to prepare for the surge. We ARE preparing.
You are just refusing to see how hard so many companies and govt agencies are working.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:36 pm to Tiguar
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I’m more referring to you thinking a sovereign nation attacking American soil is equivalent to a nebulous virus we at the time didn’t even really understand
Trump is revealing himself to be a very weak leader void of any idea that he is responsible for the safety of this nation. It's obvious he didn't understand how a much stronger response and preparation was so important. If only he had given any credence to any of the various government entities warning him about lack of preparation.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Blinded by hate.
You are just refusing to see how hard so many companies and govt agencies are working.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:38 pm to Toddy
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It's obvious he didn't understand how a much stronger response and preparation was so important.
Why do you keep on saying we aren't preparing?? We are expanding healthcare capacity so much right now, dude. We are doing what Italy DID NOT do.
NO american hospitals are overwhelmed yet, and we are getting ahead of that problem.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:39 pm to Toddy
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It's obvious he didn't understand how a much stronger response and preparation was so important. If only he had given any credence to any of the various government entities warning him about lack of preparation.
if Trump had only used magic words to scare the virus away we'd all have been saved. The virus doesn't care what Trump says. Meanwhile... in realville, Nancy Pelosi proposed NO BILLS or funding for medical supply purchases in January nor Feburary. I suppose that was Trump's fault too.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You are just refusing to see how hard so many companies and govt agencies are working.
Oh, I think it's wonderful what is happening now. It's the American spirit and I could not be more proud. I'm talking about the woeful inadequacies and lack of preparation from this administration. I'm talking about him so flippantly disregarding warnings before it was too late. There is absolutely no reason for us to be at the point we are today. It didn't have to be this way, you know?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:41 pm to Toddy
What if the president and his staff hadn't been TO frickING BUSY defending the inane "impeachment" for the first 2 months of year... maybe they could have done some good preparing.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:42 pm to Toddy
quote:I completely disagree with this assessment. Yes, trump shouldn't have downplayed the virus ITSELF.
Oh, I think it's wonderful what is happening now. It's the American spirit and I could not be more proud. I'm talking about the woeful inadequacies and lack of preparation from this administration. I'm talking about him so flippantly disregarding warnings before it was too late. There is absolutely no reason for us to be at the point we are today. It didn't have to be this way, you know?
But this idea that it was common knowledge in jan and feb that this thing was going to cause pandemic in america is baloney.
We did not know it was going to, and nobody could have predicted it.
It's the SAME REASON why every european nation is in the same boat as us.
The data available in jan and feb wasn't severe enough to convince leaders in the West to take action.
It would have been silly to shut down america in jan and feb with such flimsy data at the time.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I love Trump. What a fricking boss.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:45 pm to Toddy
What should he have done differently? Tell us with your fricking infinite wisdom what he could have done differently and I promise that you would have found a fricking reason to complain that he was doing it. I think Trump is an arse, but he has always been an arse. At least he is consistent. You only decided to hate him when he ran as a Republican.
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