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re: Trump says abortion should be left up to the states

Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:09 am to
So now LaQweesha must *gasp* cross state lines to rid herself of her cell clump?!?!?!!?!!?!!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:09 am to
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Help save the “fetus” by aborting it?


George Boole would cry if he read your post.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Trump's comments aren't about the Constitution.


But his comments are consistent with the Constitution, the current law and the recent SCOTUS ruling--that should have been the way Roe was decided in the first place. You don't think he knows that and that wasn't the point of his comments and his stance on abortion? You have to find some way to twist it as Trump being disingenuous or some TDS shite.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112377 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:12 am to
He's right
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10412 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:12 am to
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i'm as pro-life as you get, but i'd rather leave it up to states from a pure federalist stance.


Then you're not as pro life as it gets.

quote:


honestly, i'd rather make it unthinkable as opposed to illegal.


Well, that will never happen.

Besides, what quality about abortion is an exception to the rule we use for limiting all other freedoms?

Why shouldn't it be illegal? It causes the death of another human being. In every case.

Purely from a logical viewpoint, no emotion involved, what makes this something that people should be shamed into not doing (which, again, will never happen...you can't shame people who have no shame) instead of legally prohibited from doing?
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465550 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:14 am to
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But his comments are consistent with the Constitution, the current law and the recent SCOTUS ruling--that should have been the way Roe was decided in the first place.

Nothing about Dobbs prevents federal action.

quote:

You have to find some way to twist it as Trump being disingenuous or some TDS shite

I'm not attacking Trump. I'm attacking people putting words in Trump's mouth that he didn't say, to make it seem more validated.

Like this:

quote:

But his comments are consistent with the Constitution, the current law and the recent SCOTUS ruling--that should have been the way Roe was decided in the first place. You don't think he knows that and that wasn't the point of his comments and his stance on abortion?


Great example.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32702 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Why do some people act like there’s something wrong with the states deciding how they are run?

Many people believe innocent lives are being extinguished unfairly. There’s no line where it’s ok. Either you’re killing innocent babies or you’re not
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:16 am to
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Removing a zygote is not killing a baby. And if a mother’s life and that of the fetus are in grave danger, rational people would allow the mother and doctor make a decision without interference from politicians, state or federal.


Such lib BS arguments. The VAST overwhelming majority of abortions are not performed on zygotes. They are performed on fetuses aka developing babies in the womb with a beating heart, brains and nervous systems that can feel pain. There are longtime proponents of abortion that have been abortion doctors who changed their stances on abortion after a while because of this. There is a reason Dems/libs/pro-choice fanatics do everything they can to keep photos and video of abortion procedure private and out of the public sphere. If more people heard about what actually occurs during most abortions and bore witness to it happening, millions would change their stance on it. The pro-choice movement would lose a lot of steam and power. They know it.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:17 am to
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I am pro-life but I agree that it should be left up to the states. It is not a matter of the federal government to decide


Same.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32702 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:17 am to
quote:

i'm as pro-life as you get, but i'd rather leave it up to states from a pure federalist stance.

So you’re good if nothing really changes except pregnant women going to different states to kill their innocent child?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24088 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

This is more a message for the hardcore pro-lifers than liberals.


Lol wut? Liberals hate federalism more than legitimate elections.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36381 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:18 am to
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So you believe Dobbs was a horrible decision. Got it.



Dobbs was the correct decision for the laws that were on the books.


Since I’m pro life I want to save lives not just in Louisiana and Texas.

Therefore we should work to pass laws nationally.


Trump thinks that will hurt his chances at being elected so he has sacrificed children in California to try to win Georgia.


Sad!

I thought he was coming around as he had just a few weeks ago said he was looking at around 15 weeks
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295457 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

So now LaQweesha must *gasp* cross state lines to rid herself of her cell clump?!?!?!!?!!?!!


About a quarter of women who get an abortion do more than once.

Sounds like LQweesha needs to move her fat arse.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

but that’s not the case for the vast majority of abortions.


bullshite. It's the other way around... it IS the case for the vast majority of abortions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465550 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

So you’re good if nothing really changes except pregnant women going to different states to kill their innocent child?


Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36381 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:20 am to
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it's Trump's fault some states citizens will keep abortion legal? You TDS'ers never fail to pull mental gymnastics to blame everything on Trump.



It’s Trumps fault for setting a party platform to not protect life.


Just because you don’t care about kids in California doesn’t mean they don’t have souls
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8122 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:22 am to
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:24 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465550 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Lol wut?

Read this thread now. It's proving my point

quote:

Liberals hate federalism more than legitimate elections.

So do conservatives....with the right issue (like abortion)
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11359 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:27 am to
It's not Trump's fault that abortion is a non-starter on the national level. Sure, Trump could endorse a 15 week ban, but he knows he'd lose.

Same as Biden endorsing a firearms ban. Sure his hard-core base would be ecstatic, but he'd get trounced.

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