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re: Trump said he's prepared to raise tariffs as trade war with China heats up
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:29 pm to 90proofprofessional
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:29 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
don't be surprised if trumpkins get IRATE when you remind them that tariffs are taxes by definition
And this is why nobody respects your opinion.
Tariffs and taxes have different names for a reason.
Instead of being precise and factual, Gnome decided to go a more broad route for political reasons.
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:30 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
Tariffs and taxes have different names for a reason.
yeah, the same reason that payroll taxes and sales taxes have different names
and this sudden concern for precise language in the age of trump is just precious
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:31 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
And this is why nobody respects your opinion.
Aint that the truth
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:32 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:
Like Obamacare?
There it is. Found the Patriot!
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:32 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
yeah, the same reason that payroll taxes and sales taxes have different names
and this sudden concern for precise language in the age of trump is just precious
Dang, just digging that hole deeper. You have a chance here, it is up to you though.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:32 pm to 90proofprofessional
yeah thats why we say "import tax" instead of "tariff"
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:34 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:Nice try. But no.
A tariff is the gubment making me pay more for something. . So ..a tax.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:36 pm to Tiguar
quote:
yeah thats why we say "import tax" instead of "tariff"
those are perfectly synonymous though
are you implying, as the rest are, that the existence of the word "tariff" somehow implies that a tariff is not a tax?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:39 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
payroll taxes and sales taxes
What is the common denominator with these two? They are both called ..............?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:39 pm to DavidTheGnome
Please ban yourself. You are dumb or naive if you think by saying "Trump prepared to raise taxes" doesn't make most people think income tax. Yes, a tariff is a tax, but why not be specific?
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:42 pm to 90proofprofessional
He's saying using the term tax in the way the OP did was intentionally misleading.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:42 pm to 90proofprofessional
Good heavens "you people".
This board knows what a tax and a tariff is. Gnome specifically went with the word tax in a troll attempt.
If he went with
"Trump said he's prepared to raise tariffs as trade war with China heats up"
this thread would be off the front page in around 5 minutes.
Going with tax is troll agenda stuff
This is the headline from the article
"Trump says he's 'ready' to put tariffs on all $505 billion of Chinese goods imported to the US"
I guess we will let Elton send us out
This board knows what a tax and a tariff is. Gnome specifically went with the word tax in a troll attempt.
If he went with
"Trump said he's prepared to raise tariffs as trade war with China heats up"
this thread would be off the front page in around 5 minutes.
Going with tax is troll agenda stuff
This is the headline from the article
"Trump says he's 'ready' to put tariffs on all $505 billion of Chinese goods imported to the US"
I guess we will let Elton send us out
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:43 pm to DarthRebel
quote:
Going with tax is troll agenda stuff
what you mean to say is STOP REMINDING US ALL THAT TARIFFS ARE TAXES WE DON'T LIKE THIS FACT AT ALL
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:43 pm to DarthRebel
I keep assuming that poster is just being intentionally obtuse, but it happens so often, I think he may just be dumb. 
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:45 pm to 90proofprofessional
I'm asserting exactly what everyone else is.
they are indeed technically synonymous, so why not use the more widely accepted used term?
because using "tax" is inflammatory and also is wide open to interpretation. using your own example of sales tax and income tax, the "tax" in the title isn't even specified. He just said "tax".
this betrays his intent and shows his thread was not made in good faith, he just wants to piss people off.
they are indeed technically synonymous, so why not use the more widely accepted used term?
because using "tax" is inflammatory and also is wide open to interpretation. using your own example of sales tax and income tax, the "tax" in the title isn't even specified. He just said "tax".
this betrays his intent and shows his thread was not made in good faith, he just wants to piss people off.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:47 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
don't be surprised if trumpkins get IRATE when you remind them that tariffs are taxes by definition
they are amazing in their intellectual dishonesty. I wish I could be so insincere.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:49 pm to Tiguar
quote:
so why not use the more widely accepted used term?
i see them described as import taxes as often as not, and it never bothers me. this is what it is and a more mechanical description
looking at it in light of this thread, "tariff" appears to function as a bit of a euphemism more than i realized, given how upset it has you all
quote:
because using "tax" is inflammatory and also is wide open to interpretation
tax, modified by the transaction being taxed, is a more precise description. and an unpopular one here
i'm glad op has brought this to light
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:51 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:
So when I go purchase something
Did you decide to go purchase something? Because the government decides for you to pay taxes, not for you to go purchase something.
You are such a moron it is outstanding.
Tariffs are "taxes" the you volunteer (by choosing for yourself whether to buy or not) to pay when buying something
Taxes are mandatory payments from you to the government, decided for you by sad government, outside of your control.
You don't have to buy the merchandise. You do have to pay taxes.
I swear to god I could teach this to a monkey in a zoo faster than it's taking you to grasp it.
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:51 pm to brian_wilson
quote:
hey are amazing in their intellectual dishonesty. I wish I could be so insincere.
lol just lol at the crying about trolling, imprecise language, and inflammatory language
"import tax" is a neutral and more precise descriptor
the fact that it's a tax by definition is what really is causing all the panty-twisting
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:52 pm to Tiguar
quote:
I'm asserting exactly what everyone else is.
they are indeed technically synonymous, so why not use the more widely accepted used term?
because using "tax" is inflammatory and also is wide open to interpretation. using your own example of sales tax and income tax, the "tax" in the title isn't even specified. He just said "tax".
this betrays his intent and shows his thread was not made in good faith, he just wants to piss people off.
Boom
We laugh at the others for their failed attempt.
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