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Trump requests investigation into 2016 election meddling - democrats retaliate

Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:40 pm
Articles of impeachment by Thanksgiving? Pelosi wants to move 'expeditiously'

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House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff told reporters Friday that his committee is mapping out potential hearings, depositions and subpoenas for its impeachment probe in the weeks ahead, as Democrats issued the first subpoena in an effort centered on President Donald Trump's phone call with the president of Ukraine and a related whistleblower complaint.


THIS IS NOT AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. IT IS TO OBSTRUCT AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION INTO THE DEMOCRATS COLLUSION WITH THE UKRAINIANS INTO THE 2016 PREZ ELECTION. CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

4 democrat senators pressured the Ukranian gov't into digging dirt on Trump to affect the 2016 election. They threatened to with hold funds, if the Ukrainians did not look for dirt on Trump and Manafort. Also, Crowdstrike (a Ukranian company, not the Eff Bee Eye) reviewed the DNC server and falsely claimed that the Russians hacked the server. No evidence was provided to anyone proving this.
The democrat VP Biden with held $1BILLION from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor. He gave them 6 hours to do it. Coincidentally, the prosecutor was to interview is son HB as part of their investigation into corruption of a company named Burisma.
This is designed to obstruct this investigation.
...but the MSM and Pelosi say there's nothing to see here. No evidence the democrats did anything, but there is evidence, and Ukraine has it. When they tried to give it to the Eff Bee Eye, they would not accept it. This is corruption in US intel agencies. This needs to be investigated.
Pelosi also falsely claims Trump is trying to get Ukraine to meddle in the 2020 election. This is false. He is asking them to help with the Dee O Jay 2016 election meddling, and they know a lot happened between Ukraine and the democrats. These rats are scurrying. They know their crimes are about to be exposed.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9595 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:42 pm to
Melt
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:43 pm to
Schiff, yeah right

Can someone just ask them if they’re guilty of something and they’re trying to protect their own asses from going to prison or worse?

Somebody ask them this please!!!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 1:45 pm to
Holy shite, the comments under that article are ALL pro-Trump.

Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 2:23 pm to
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the comments under that article are ALL pro-Trump.


The informed Americans need to inform the uninformed. As they learn, they will be angrier than the Kavanaugh debacle.
People need to call this for what it is. Expose the democrats for retaliating against Trump and Barr for investigating democrat crimes in the Ukraine.
The democrats are looking more foolish each day. trying to impeach a prez for having a phone call with a foreign leader? Asking the Ukranian prez to honor a treaty their country signed with the US 20 years ago? To try to claim these are impeachable offenses is offensive.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57913 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
Yes, yes and yes.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Also, Crowdstrike (a Ukranian company


I have seen this stated several times since the transcript.

Could you link something that verifies this?

I did my best and all I could find was that Crowdstrike is based in California, and one of its founders was born in Russia.

Perhaps he was born in Ukraine back when they were part of USSR?

Still, that is not much of a smocking gun.

Where's the beef?
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 2:29 pm to
The same affect has been occuring in WBRZ FB news posts as well.

The right voters seem to be getting much more vocal and less passive, as a whole.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:46 pm to
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did my best and all I could find was that Crowdstrike is based in California, and one of its founders was born in Russia.


Crowdstrike’s CTO and co-founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a think tank with openly anti-Russian sentiments that is funded by Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk, who also happened to donate at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation. Google invested in Crowdstrike. Eric Schmidt, was actively working to help the Hillary campaign.

What Is CrowdStrike? Firm Hired By DNC Has Ties To Hillary Clinton, A Ukrainian Billionaire, And Google 3/24/2017

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As usual, the rabbit hole gets much deeper the more you look.

In yesterday’s post, Credibility of Cyber Firm that Claimed Russia Hacked the DNC Comes Under Serious Question, I examined how CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC to look into its hacking breach, had been exposed as being completely wrong about a separate attack it claimed originated from the same group it claimed broke into DNC systems, and supposedly works for Russia’s military intelligence unit, GRU. Here’s some of what we learned:

An influential British think tank and Ukraine’s military are disputing a report that the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has used to buttress its claims of Russian hacking in the presidential election.

The CrowdStrike report, released in December 2016, asserted that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, resulting in heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine’s war with Russian-backed separatists.

But the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) told VOA that CrowdStrike erroneously used IISS data as proof of the intrusion. IISS disavowed any connection to the CrowdStrike report. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense also has claimed combat losses and hacking never happened.

The challenges to CrowdStrike’s credibility are significant because the firm was the first to link last year’s hacks of Democratic Party computers to Russian actors, and because CrowdStrike co-founder Dimiti Alperovitch has trumpeted its Ukraine report as more evidence of Russian election tampering.

Yaroslav Sherstyuk, maker of the Ukrainian military app in question, called the company’s report “delusional” in a Facebook post. CrowdStrike never contacted him before or after its report was published, he told VOA.

VOA first contacted IISS in February to verify the alleged artillery losses. Officials there initially were unaware of the CrowdStrike assertions. After investigating, they determined that CrowdStrike misinterpreted their data and hadn’t reached out beforehand for comment or clarification.

CrowdStrike declined to answer VOA’s written questions about the Ukraine report, and Alperovitch canceled a March 15 interview on the topic. In a December statement to VOA’s Ukrainian Service, spokeswoman Ilina Dimitrova defended the company’s conclusions.

Seems like pretty extraordinary incompetence. Either that, or something else was potentially at play; namely, a desire to push the narrative that Russia hacked the DNC, irrespective of the facts.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50407 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:50 pm to
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Melt


Hahaha you're nuts. This might be the best thing to ever happen to the Republican Party. They just have to not screw it up.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30099 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 9:58 pm to
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Pelosi wants to move 'expeditiously'

Lol I bet she does. Put it as far behind them as possible come election time.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 9/28/19 at 10:01 pm to
As Paul Harvey used to say, "and now for the rest of the story...
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The whole things gets even more disturbing the more you look.

For example, Counterpunch put out a very important article earlier today(3/24/2017) on the topic, adding several crucial nuggets of information.

First there’s this:

The investigation methods used to come to the conclusion that the Russian Government led the hacks of the DNC, Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta, and the DCCC were further called into question by a recent BuzzFeed report by Jason Leopold, who has developed a notable reputation from leading several non-partisan Freedom of Information Act lawsuits for investigative journalism purposes. On March 15 that the Department of Homeland Security released just two heavily redacted pages of unclassified information in response to an FOIA request for definitive evidence of Russian election interference allegations. Leopold wrote, “what the agency turned over to us and Ryan Shapiro, a PhD candidate at MIT and a research affiliate at Harvard University, is truly bizarre: a two-page intelligence assessment of the incident, dated Aug. 22, 2016, that contains information DHS culled from the internet. It’s all unclassified — yet DHS covered nearly everything in wide swaths of black ink. Why? Not because it would threaten national security, but because it would reveal the methods DHS uses to gather intelligence, methods that may amount to little more than using Google.”

That’s weird enough, but it gets far stranger. For example:

In lieu of substantive evidence provided to the public that the alleged hacks which led to Wikileaks releases of DNC and Clinton Campaign Manager John Podesta’s emails were orchestrated by the Russian Government, CrowdStrike’s bias has been cited as undependable in its own assessment, in addition to its skeptical methods and conclusions. The firm’s CTO and co-founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a think tank with openly anti-Russian sentiments that is funded by Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk, who also happened to donate at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation.

In 2013, the Atlantic Council awarded Hillary Clinton it’s Distinguished International Leadership Award. In 2014, the Atlantic Council hosted one of several events with former Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who took over after pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in early 2014, who now lives in exile in Russia.

Recall that the FBI was denied access to the DNC servers by the DNC itself, and simply agreed to rely on the results provided by CrowdStrike, which as you can see has ties to all sorts of anti-Russia organizations and individuals. I find it absolutely remarkable that James Comey head of the FBI outsourced his job to CrowdStrike.

There remains zero evidence that Russia hacked the DNC. I repeat, there remains zero evidence that Russia hacked the DNC.

As cybersecurity expert Jeffrey Carr noted:

Jeffrey Carr called the FBI/Department of Homeland Security Report, the only alleged evidence released by intelligence officials, released in late December 2016 a “fatally flawed effort” that provided no evidence to substantiate the claims that the Russian government conducted the hacks, though that’s what it was purported to do.

Absolutely remarkable, but there’s more. As TechCrunch reported back in 2015:

If you need proof that security is a red hot market these days, how about this morning’s announcement that cybersecurity company CrowdStrike landed a $100 million Series C investment round? The round was led by Google Capital with Rackspace, which happens to be one of the company’s customers also investing. Existing investors Accel and Warburg Pincus also participated. Today’s investment brings the total to-date to $156 million.

Why do I find it interesting that Google was a major investor in CrowdStrike? Well for one, we know that Chairman of Alphabet, Inc. (Google’s parent company), Eric Schmidt, was actively working to help the Hillary campaign. As I highlighted in the 2015 post, Meet “Groundwork” – Google Chairman Eric Schmidt’s Stealth Startup Working to Make Hillary Clinton President:

An under-the-radar startup funded by billionaire Eric Schmidt has become a major technology vendor for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, underscoring the bonds between Silicon Valley and Democratic politics.

The Groundwork, according to Democratic campaign operatives and technologists, is part of efforts by Schmidt—the executive chairman of Google parent-company Alphabet—to ensure that Clinton has the engineering talent needed to win the election. And it is one of a series of quiet investments by Schmidt that recognize how modern political campaigns are run, with data analytics and digital outreach as vital ingredients that allow candidates to find, court, and turn out critical voter blocs.

There is also another gap in play: The shrinking distance between Google and the Democratic Party. Former Google executive Stephanie Hannon is the Clinton campaign’s chief technology officer, and a host of ex-Googlers are currently employed as high-ranking technical staff at the Obama White House. Schmidt, for his part, is one of the most powerful donors in the Democratic Party—and his influence does not stem only from his wealth, estimated by Forbes at more than $10 billion.

According to campaign finance disclosures, Clinton’s campaign is the Groundwork’s only political client. Its employees are mostly back-end software developers with experience at blue-chip tech firms like Netflix, Dreamhost, and Google.

Since Democrats seem so obsessed with the saying these days, “where there’s smoke there’s fire,” and there’s plenty of smoke here.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23696 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 5:47 am to
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The right voters seem to be getting much more vocal and less passive, as a whole.


Or the Russian troll farms.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:09 am to
Vermin

Amazing that you scumbags are too stupid to see what is going on

Just like the Venezuelans were

You assholes never do truthfully spell out what the democrats would do with power because you cannot defend it
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18350 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 6:58 am to
is that where you oozed from?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57205 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:18 am to
Finally an honest Democrat:


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"I think it's everyone's intention here to get this done in 2019," said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Mass., a member of the House Judiciary Committee,,,,may we might have a chance to take back the Presidents seat.


This is what this nonsense is all about.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71034 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:25 am to
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This might be the best thing to ever happen to the Republican Party.


:freedomboner:

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They just have to not screw it up.


:blueballs:
Posted by FrenchToast
The French Kitchen
Member since Jan 2016
1810 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:28 am to
... so all of the actors in the "Fake Impeachment" should be charged for obstruction of justice. How much more proof is needed to move forward and arrest these ruffians ?
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 11:04 pm to
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... so all of the actors in the "Fake Impeachment" should be charged for obstruction of justice. How much more proof is needed to move forward and arrest these ruffians ?



That's the way I see it. Their actions should be proof enough. Schiff should be removed from office for lying to Congress. His opening remarks were fraudulent, and is now in the record. Shame on him.
It is not a parody if you do not declare it as one ON THE RECORD!!!
He should go to jail for this.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46026 posts
Posted on 9/29/19 at 11:10 pm to
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crewdepoo


His name is poo, I agree.
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