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Trump proposes adding Brazil to NATO as full fledged Member; Establishment confused

Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:12 am
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The Trump-Bolsonaro meeting seems to have signaled a big realignment of some kind — that NATO proposition was definitely a bolt out of the blue, and quite possibly a message to Germany to shape up or get dwarfed.

At a minimum, the meeting signaled that the U.S. has suddenly gotten a bigfoot new ally, one of the vaunted BRICs, actually, blowing apart the establishment-lefty view that the BRICs are striking out on their own and rising together. (In the past, we'd see pictures like this to demonstrate the hype). Actually, Brazil has much more to gain in a tag-team relationship with the U.S. than it does hanging around with messed-up countries such as Russia, or nasty, economically battered tyrannies such as China.


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President Trump held his first joint press conference with Brazil's awesome new conservative president, Jair Bolsonaro, and threw out the bombshell idea of making Brazil a full member of NATO.

It was a head-turner, because up until now, the functionality of the U.S.-Brazil relationship has always revolved around assorted trade spats, and now the disintegration of Venezuela, which is situated between the two giants.


I kind of like it.

Some stats:

Brazil is #11 on total military expenditures at 29.3 Billion, but is only 1.4% of GDP, but has been trending upward.
The only current NATO members with higher military spending are France (6), UK (7), and Germany (9).
Brazil still practices conscription, periods of 9-12 months.
Active personnel 384,000 (14th largest)
Reserves: 1.6 M (5th largest)
Notable firms with military production: Embraer, Avibras, CBC (one of the largest ammo mfg in the world).
Last war: WW2. Sent 25,000 soldiers who fought in Italy, France, and Germany. It was the only independent S American nation to send ground troops, losing almost 1000 soldiers KIA in the war.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 9:36 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:16 am to
Kick out turkey. Replace with Brazil. Import Brazilian chicks.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:21 am to
Let’s add Australia, too.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:22 am to
I like the idea of pivoting our energy closer to home.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20274 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:22 am to
We need to make sure China and Russia don’t get a foothold in the Southern Hemisphere. This is a good conversation to have moving forward.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:23 am to
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Kick out Europe. Replace with Brazil. Import Brazilian chicks.



Brazil is in our historic sphere of influence.

A new NATO comprised of USA, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, and Argentina would be a great way to keep Chinese influence out of the Americas.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:23 am to
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Let’s add Australia, too.



What would be the reasoning?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:25 am to
Let's hear it dems.


How many people will die because of this.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:25 am to
Hezbollah is in that area. Great jumping off point to destroy them.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:26 am to
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Brazil is in our historic sphere of influence.

A new NATO comprised of USA, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, and Argentina would be a great way to keep Chinese influence out of the Americas.
Is this not the purpose of the Organization of American States? Or are you suggesting a new OAS, for only the cool kids?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120268 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:26 am to
But I thought Trump hated Hispanics?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73650 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:26 am to
Please do this Trump

Make Brazil Great Again Bolsonaro
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:27 am to
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Let’s add Australia, too.
What would be the reasoning?
Sarcasm.

NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:28 am to
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.


Well America isn't in the Europe region....
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1902 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:29 am to
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.


But the US and Canada are?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22365 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:32 am to
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.


Neither is Turkey, Greece or Italy..
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37631 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:34 am to
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Replace with Brazil. Import Brazilian chicks.


Need more hot women instead of fatass Dreamers from Guatemala
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73650 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:36 am to
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.



Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:37 am to
It's the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

So many maroons on this board.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:37 am to
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quote:

NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
Neither is Turkey, Greece or Italy..
Like about half of NATO members, they do not border on the North Atlantic, but they ARE in the region near the North Atlantic.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 9:39 am
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