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Trump proposes adding Brazil to NATO as full fledged Member; Establishment confused
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:12 am
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:12 am
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I kind of like it.
Some stats:
Brazil is #11 on total military expenditures at 29.3 Billion, but is only 1.4% of GDP, but has been trending upward.
The only current NATO members with higher military spending are France (6), UK (7), and Germany (9).
Brazil still practices conscription, periods of 9-12 months.
Active personnel 384,000 (14th largest)
Reserves: 1.6 M (5th largest)
Notable firms with military production: Embraer, Avibras, CBC (one of the largest ammo mfg in the world).
Last war: WW2. Sent 25,000 soldiers who fought in Italy, France, and Germany. It was the only independent S American nation to send ground troops, losing almost 1000 soldiers KIA in the war.
quote:
The Trump-Bolsonaro meeting seems to have signaled a big realignment of some kind — that NATO proposition was definitely a bolt out of the blue, and quite possibly a message to Germany to shape up or get dwarfed.
At a minimum, the meeting signaled that the U.S. has suddenly gotten a bigfoot new ally, one of the vaunted BRICs, actually, blowing apart the establishment-lefty view that the BRICs are striking out on their own and rising together. (In the past, we'd see pictures like this to demonstrate the hype). Actually, Brazil has much more to gain in a tag-team relationship with the U.S. than it does hanging around with messed-up countries such as Russia, or nasty, economically battered tyrannies such as China.
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President Trump held his first joint press conference with Brazil's awesome new conservative president, Jair Bolsonaro, and threw out the bombshell idea of making Brazil a full member of NATO.
It was a head-turner, because up until now, the functionality of the U.S.-Brazil relationship has always revolved around assorted trade spats, and now the disintegration of Venezuela, which is situated between the two giants.
I kind of like it.
Some stats:
Brazil is #11 on total military expenditures at 29.3 Billion, but is only 1.4% of GDP, but has been trending upward.
The only current NATO members with higher military spending are France (6), UK (7), and Germany (9).
Brazil still practices conscription, periods of 9-12 months.
Active personnel 384,000 (14th largest)
Reserves: 1.6 M (5th largest)
Notable firms with military production: Embraer, Avibras, CBC (one of the largest ammo mfg in the world).
Last war: WW2. Sent 25,000 soldiers who fought in Italy, France, and Germany. It was the only independent S American nation to send ground troops, losing almost 1000 soldiers KIA in the war.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:16 am to cokebottleag
Kick out turkey. Replace with Brazil. Import Brazilian chicks.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:21 am to cokebottleag
Let’s add Australia, too.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:22 am to cokebottleag
I like the idea of pivoting our energy closer to home.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:22 am to cokebottleag
We need to make sure China and Russia don’t get a foothold in the Southern Hemisphere. This is a good conversation to have moving forward.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:23 am to Tiguar
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Kick out Europe. Replace with Brazil. Import Brazilian chicks.
Brazil is in our historic sphere of influence.
A new NATO comprised of USA, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, and Argentina would be a great way to keep Chinese influence out of the Americas.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:23 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Let’s add Australia, too.
What would be the reasoning?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:25 am to cokebottleag
Let's hear it dems.
How many people will die because of this.
How many people will die because of this.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:25 am to cokebottleag
Hezbollah is in that area. Great jumping off point to destroy them.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:26 am to cokebottleag
quote:Is this not the purpose of the Organization of American States? Or are you suggesting a new OAS, for only the cool kids?
Brazil is in our historic sphere of influence.
A new NATO comprised of USA, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, and Argentina would be a great way to keep Chinese influence out of the Americas.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:26 am to cokebottleag
But I thought Trump hated Hispanics?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:26 am to cokebottleag
Please do this Trump
Make Brazil Great Again Bolsonaro
Make Brazil Great Again Bolsonaro
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:27 am to cokebottleag
quote:Sarcasm.quote:What would be the reasoning?
Let’s add Australia, too.
NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:28 am to AggieHank86
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
Well America isn't in the Europe region....
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:29 am to AggieHank86
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
But the US and Canada are?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:32 am to AggieHank86
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
Neither is Turkey, Greece or Italy..
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:34 am to Tiguar
quote:
Replace with Brazil. Import Brazilian chicks.
Need more hot women instead of fatass Dreamers from Guatemala
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:36 am to Dawgfanman
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NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:37 am to cokebottleag
It's the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
So many maroons on this board.
So many maroons on this board.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:37 am to Dawgfanman
quote:Like about half of NATO members, they do not border on the North Atlantic, but they ARE in the region near the North Atlantic.quote:Neither is Turkey, Greece or Italy..
NATO is a regional defense alliance. Neither Brazil nor Australia is in the region.
This post was edited on 3/21/19 at 9:39 am
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