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re: Trump promoting a 50 year mortgage. Dave Ramsey will lose his mind. Terrible idea - imo

Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:23 pm to
You want housing to become less affordable?

This will sure help achieve that

What an awful idea
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157859 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:27 pm to
But but but the clapping seals says it’s a good thing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:28 pm to
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You want housing to become less affordable?


How would it become less affordable?

Because Roadgator thinks so

You ppl just want to complain about everything. You are all Massholes
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:29 pm to
Describe in detail how it will destroy the housing market, you are aware that 40 year mortgages are available in some areas and people refinance all the time?
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
4276 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:30 pm to
Sure, rising home values sound great if you already own — but it’s not that simple. When values shoot up because of inflated lending, so do property taxes, insurance, and the cost to buy your next place. It’s only “good” if you plan to sell and not buy again.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1915 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:31 pm to
Those against this probably don't own a house or don't understand debt. One you get in the house business you are counting on housing going up in value. Except for short term situations houses go up in value. It's like the stock market..

The alternative?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:32 pm to
And if rates drop 1% and the values shoot up causing all that when we dont have a 50yr mortgage are you going to whine ans cry about 30yr fixes?

Or you will be good with all that

And how much nore are they going to rise from a 50yr mortgage
Break that down for us

And you prefer everyone rents with 10% increases yearly?
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4203 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:32 pm to
Everyone keeps calling 50-year mortgages a fix for housing affordability, but they’re really a slow-motion disaster. If the next administration — or any — loosens lending standards again (lower FICO minimums, smaller down payments, higher DTIs), we’re basically recreating 2008 with the safety nets cut out.

Back then, most loans were 30- or 40-year terms, and people still defaulted in droves once prices fell. Now imagine those same borrowers on 50-year loans, barely building equity for decades. When prices dip even modestly, they’re instantly underwater. Multiply that across millions of households and you’ve got a collapse worse than 2008 — because the debt lasts longer, the equity cushion is thinner, and the defaults spread wider.

The responsible people — the ones who save, budget, and buy within their means — would once again get punished twice: first by inflated prices driven by easy credit, and then by the bailouts and inflation that follow.

Want a stepping stone to a collapse that leads straight to socialism? Here you go.

And here’s a rule of thumb: any time someone compares your economic idea to FDR, you’ve got a really, really bad idea.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:33 pm to
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loosens lending standards again (lower FICO minimums, smaller down payments, higher DTIs)


You realize FHA allows a 500 fico with 3.5% with a 56.99% back end dti ratio right?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157859 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:35 pm to
Umm. I own multiple.

Now what?


Will this increase demand or no?

What does an increase in demand do to prices?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:36 pm to
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Umm. I own multiple.


Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:36 pm to
You act like millions of new buyers are going to flood the market because some banks are willing to offer 50 year notes. Several financing options like ARM loans and 20 year notes yet they aren’t offered by several major financial institutions. IF this happens, it will be a negligible increase in prices.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:37 pm to
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Once rates drop even .5 we get 5mil new buyers



You’ve been saying this for several years now. Hasn’t come to fruition and hasn’t been true. You also told us after Trump was elected mortgage rates would be in the high 4’s by end of 2025. Well, we are almost there and they aren’t close. In fact, builders are offering rate buy downs on new builds and people still aren’t touching them. 50 year mortgages are insane and it’s no coincidence that someone who bankrupted a god damn Casino (how is that even possible) is throwing out 50 year mortgages. As someone already said 15 year mortgages should be max available. It would fix housing market immediately if that was implemented. 50 year does nothing but make people slaves to the banks.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:42 pm to
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You’ve been saying this for several years now


Rates havent drop .5 since the 9% your buddy Biden got us too

More homes were bought?

Thats what you are claiming. Idiot
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:46 pm to
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Rates


Mortgage rates which you claimed would be in the “high 4’s” in December of 2025

You are getting downvoted into oblivion on every post you make in this thread because you have your lips attached to Trumps arse.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38364 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:48 pm to
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Now then!
Compare the ROI related to increasing home loans from 30yrs to 50yrs, vs increasing Auto loans from 48 to 72 months
Hmmm?? There is no comparison. If you put the house value at 72 months and the vehicle at 72 months, you could probably see 50% increase in house value to 50% or more decrease in value of the vehicle. That's assuming normal driving (12,000 miles + or -) per year.

Am I close?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Mortgage rates which you claimed would be in the “high 4’s” in December of 2025


They are in the high 4s now

I mean i understand you are a moron who listens to the media but you shouldnt be speaking about anything mortgage or rate related to me

You spent the last 4yrs telling us Orange would never win
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:56 pm to
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They are in the high 4s now




You are one of the biggest imbeciles on here. You are full of shite. It’s about time for you to do your usual and run away from the thread and pretend you never said any of this stuff like you’ve done many times in the past.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98113 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:59 pm to
You just prove my point

You are poor, have bad credit and dont understand anytbing mortgage or rate related

You have ppl on the Money board stating they are getting 5.375% rates and you here saying a high 4% isnt available

Im sorry you are the way you are.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:03 pm to
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You are poor, have bad credit and dont understand anytbing mortgage or rate related

My home is paid off. I don’t have a mortgage.
quote:

You have ppl on the Money board stating they are getting 5.375% rates

That’s not high 4’s but nice try.

You are 100% full of shite and speaking of poor you have been begging and wishcasting and even lying about mortgage rates on here to go down for at least two years now. That’s something an actual poor person would do.
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