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re: Trump PAC drops Ron Desantis Pudding ad. This is hilarious.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:27 pm to davyjones
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:27 pm to davyjones
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Now do you promise that’s a neutral observation of events, no liberties taken based on personal opinions?
Yes.
Unlike you guys I can be objective on occasion. I praise Trump for things he did well all of the time.
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Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:28 pm to JoeHackett
If you’re saying that Trump has no official or direct affiliation with the MAGA SuperPAC, then you’re spot on, well done. If you’re saying something to the contrary, then you’re spot off, and not well done. Your attachment/quote offers nothing to refute that.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:30 pm to Giantkiller
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Well, once again since y’all don’t seem to understand, Trump has to clear the primary board first. Ron is the first challenge
I don't have a problem with Trump going after DeSantis.
It's the attack from the left of DeSantis that should concern Trump supporters. Trying to reform Social Security and Medicare has been a conservative goal for some time. Trump taking a left position on the matter should be worrying.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:33 pm to David_DJS
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jjdoc, you really shouldn't be on this board telling anybody what conservative is. FFS
More Conservative than most here.
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f you were truly a conservative, you'd understand that 100% of your care and effort should be about minimizing what the federal gov't does. Period. You want it smaller, not bigger. You want fewer people depending on it, not more.
What I am about is not sacrificing one conservative stance in part for another when both are solvable and accomplish the goals.
Are you not?
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:40 pm to Bourre
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I wish Trump and his allies would go after democrats as hard as he’s going after Desantis.
Trump has announced his candidacy for President…Desantis is playing games. Acting as he’s running without announcing. What would you expect? The nomination process goes through republicans first….then democrats. Why unload on Biden if he’s not the nominee? Who else would he “go after”?
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:42 pm to Fun Bunch
You may think you’re being objective, but show me an instance wherein you disputed a claim or accusation or other assertion placed by an avowed (<—no negative connotation to that) anti-Trumper arguing pro-Desantis points, basically as we see and do in many threads here daily. The heated ones that are obviously two sides and a clear dividing line, with the usual back and forth.
I don’t mind acknowledging being off target in the assertion that you are easily most often arguing and promoting the anti-Trump positions in the given thread. I just don’t think you can switch objectiveness on and off at will.
I don’t mind acknowledging being off target in the assertion that you are easily most often arguing and promoting the anti-Trump positions in the given thread. I just don’t think you can switch objectiveness on and off at will.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:42 pm to JoeHackett
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Trump taking a left position on the matter should be worrying.
Meh. If anything it just shores up the fact Trump sees him as a major threat. You gotta swing hard to get those knockout hits.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:43 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Your brand of populism is incompatible with conservatism.
More Conservative than most here.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:44 pm to davyjones
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If you’re saying that Trump has no official or direct affiliation with the MAGA SuperPAC
Trump's leadership PAC Save America sent $20 million in October and $40 million in November to MAGA Inc.
That's "direct affiliation".
You're trying hard though. Jjdoc is proud of you. Sometimes we try, not all the time, but certainly some of the time we try to hide dear leader's involvement in what some might consider an "attack ad". Certainly the effort to conceal is paved with good intentions but does inevitably lead to hell. I'm of the opinion that truth, which in and of itself can at times be difficult to ascertain, will set us free.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:47 pm to Giantkiller
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Meh. If anything it just shores up the fact Trump sees him as a major threat. You gotta swing hard to get those knockout hits.
Attacking from the left isn't exactly a winning strategy though. Trump was attacked from the left by Republicans back in 2015 after his statement about murderers and rapists crossing our border. It was pretty disastrous for Rubio, Kasich, Bush etc...
It's difficult to win a conservative primary while willingly moving left. Not to mention having to pivot right once the general rolls around.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 2:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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More Conservative than most here.
Your brand of populism is incompatible with conservatism.
Nah. You just an not rectify your own conflicts. It's why you will not answer if it's a conservative stance to steal money from people.
Your conflict is that you an not reconcile what you think should be done (theft) with SS (theft) and a solution.
Your actual solution is more theft.. but for "the greater good right."
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:01 pm to JoeHackett
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Trump's leadership PAC Save America sent $20 million in October and $40 million in November to MAGA Inc.
Even if true, the honest conclusion one would form there is that was specifically in connection with and tied to midterm campaign efforts, as obviously supported by the timeframe you cited (November), not forward looking all the way to the ad you see today.
But more importantly, before the above even becomes relevant to the discussion, where are you seeing that about direct contribution from Trump’s Save America to the other one?? I must be overlooking that part.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:09 pm to davyjones
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But more importantly, before the above even becomes relevant to the discussion, where are you seeing that about direct contribution from Trump’s Save America to the other one?? I must be overlooking that part.
LINK
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as obviously supported by the timeframe you cited (November), not forward looking all the way to the ad you see today.
Because of FEC filing dates. First quarter of 2023 ended 3/31. Filing deadline for that quarter is 4/15. The FEC will make receipts and disbursements available soon.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:30 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Polls say otherwise.
The same ones that had Hillary winning in 2016?
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:32 pm to JoeHackett
As I’m sure we have all learned over time, the naming of companies and corporations during the registration process is a very tricky thing due to extremely similar names used with sometimes only subtle distinctions to be noticed at first glance.
Are you positive that Save America Leadership PAC (the one referenced in your link) and Save America PAC are the same thing? Because even in intentionally trying to match them as same, I’m left with some lingering doubt.
**And kudos for finding and providing that, at first glance it’s interesting at a minimum. You may have successfully shown a link via financial contribution. I would still have a few remarks once we verify the info above.
Are you positive that Save America Leadership PAC (the one referenced in your link) and Save America PAC are the same thing? Because even in intentionally trying to match them as same, I’m left with some lingering doubt.
**And kudos for finding and providing that, at first glance it’s interesting at a minimum. You may have successfully shown a link via financial contribution. I would still have a few remarks once we verify the info above.
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:35 pm to davyjones
You don’t want to answer that question?
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:37 pm to davyjones
Cool. You’re wrong. The end.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:38 pm to roadGator
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You don’t want to answer that question?
As if you want to answer all the questions thrown out.
Is stealing money from tax payers conservative RG?
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:39 pm to Jjdoc
Lay out your gotcha attempt.
Posted on 4/14/23 at 3:42 pm to roadGator
Because it has no bearing what anyone os thinking as to liking or disliking anything on topic here, and neither you nor I can prove one way or another (again, it’s a silly exercise to begin with):
You’re guessing he likes it;
I’ll go with he doesn’t like it. Doesn’t mean he actively dislikes it, just not actively likes it. Just neither here nor there. So what now? ?
You’re guessing he likes it;
I’ll go with he doesn’t like it. Doesn’t mean he actively dislikes it, just not actively likes it. Just neither here nor there. So what now? ?
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 3:44 pm
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