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Trump lies again about having no control over immigration policy

Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:46 am
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:46 am
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In fact, there is no law that requires families to be separated at the border. There is a law against “improper entry” at the border, as well as a consent decree known as the Flores settlement that limits to 20 days the amount of time that migrant children may be held in immigration detention, which a federal judge ruled in 2016 also applies to families. A 2008 anti-trafficking statute — signed into law by a Republican president, George W. Bush — also requires that certain unaccompanied alien minors be transferred out of immigration detention in 72 hours. None of those laws or precedents mean that children must be taken away from their parents.

It is the Trump administration’s decision this year to prosecute all unlawful immigrants as criminals that has forced the breakup of families; the children are removed when the parents are taken into federal custody. While previous administrations have made exceptions to such prosecutions for adults traveling with their minor children, the Trump administration has said it will not do so.




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Any notion that this bill ends family separation is a boldfaced lie,” said Representative Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, the top Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee. “The Trump administration is brutally separating families at the border because they choose to as a deterrent.”


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Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54213 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:49 am to
NYT opinion piece.

What was Obama's reasoning for caging up kids? Surely he had some precedent to go by or was it just another one of his EOs?
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:50 am to
I have a solution. Don't bring your kids when you are going to break the law
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:50 am to
But muh illegal immigrants.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29826 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:51 am to
Do you know how many of these children being detained actually come with their families? Because it’s fairly common for juveniles to be used by cartels in drug smuggling operations. Maybe this never occurred to you but the reality is that not all of these kids are on a trip with ma and pa.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5345 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:51 am to
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Don't bring your kids when you are going to break the law


We don't even know if those are their kids and not some ok ne trafficking children into the country.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:51 am to
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said Representative Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, the top Democrat


Because the democrats never use hyperbole when referencing Trump’s policies.

Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90548 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:52 am to
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The Trump administration is brutally separating


So they're beating the shite out of the people as they do it?
Posted by Tiger Lake
On the Lake !
Member since Dec 2016
1254 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:52 am to
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Trump lies again about having no control over immigration policy by TJGator1215


How many times do you frickstick liberal idiots have to have your arse handed to you?

The media beats you idiots into a frenzy with half truths and outright lies.....you think you are getting traction.....and Trump whips yalls asses. It fricking hilarious.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73866 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:52 am to
You are melting hard today


Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35056 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:52 am to
If I said hey. TJ, if you try to cross this line, I’ll shoot you.

Are you gonna act surprised when you get shot for crossing that line?

If you didn’t wanna get shot, wouldn’t you say ok, I’ll just stay on this side of the line?

Don’t wanna have your kid taken from you? Don’t fricking cross the boarder with your kid.

Easy as frick
Posted by WillyLoman
On Island Time
Member since Dec 2007
1719 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:56 am to
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Representative Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi, the top Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee.


This man in this position is a perfect example of our broken political system. #Trump2020
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73449 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:57 am to
The best troll work usually involves dropping a shitty thread then never returning, well done.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:57 am to
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Representative Bennie G. Thompson of Mississippi


A total P.O.S.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 8:57 am to


Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9750 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:01 am to
Ended catch and release and They're following law.

If the adults would just not break the law none of this woukd be happening.


Here is the truth!


thruth on separating families






Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5715 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:01 am to
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It is the Trump administration’s decision this year to prosecute all unlawful immigrants as criminals that has forced the breakup of families


Sounds like the author is suggesting that we should let any illegal who hauls a kid over the line, whether it’s his or not (because there’s no way for us to know, they aren’t traveling with birth certificates and ID), to escape criminal prosecution so he can keep the kid he picked up along the way with him.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17192 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:01 am to
So by following the law, laws which are enacted by Congress, somehow it is this POTUS that is responsible?


That the kids in the cages in 2014, 2015 are somehow POTUS Trump's doing?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:03 am to
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5715 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 9:06 am to
You could argue that Trump’s policy of criminal prosecuting EVERY illegal, whether they bring a kid or not, actually protects children from trafficking. Otherwise, there is a perverse incentive for illegals to “buy” a kid to accompany him across the border to prevent his prosecution. If there is a demand to “buy” children for that purpose, you can bet there will be a market to provide them, supported by kidnappings and the like.
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