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re: Trump just designated churches
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:49 pm to tigerinDC09
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:49 pm to tigerinDC09
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Ok, so you'll defend a church who's religion mandates that it has service in the oval office then right?
I quoted this because I find it fascinating and I really do not want you to be able to delete it...
This is what I will point to from now on in matters of your lack of credibility...
Wow... The level of stupid here, in this one quote is just amazing...
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:49 pm to Roger Klarvin
Karen should hang out with Jain.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:49 pm to tigerinDC09
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Of course, but with all rights, there are limits and constraints. If Trump overrules a governor about opening churches, I will overrule Trump and declare them closed again. We have the same authority.
Trump isn’t going to do anything, simp. The DOJ will just filing suits. And they’ll win.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:50 pm to The Maj
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So, you contend a State has the authority to tell someone when, how, at what time, and in what manner they can exercise their religious beliefs?
Within certain circumstances, yes. This is basic constitutional law stuff.
So youre telling me if a church building is deemed unsafe by the fire Marshall or condemned after a fire that it's unconstitutional to block entrance?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:50 pm to The Maj
He’s really dumber than he even initially appears.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:51 pm to tigerinDC09
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Within certain circumstances, yes.
Sure. Explain to me the “certain circumstances” in Kansas which justify suspending the First Amendment rights of assembly and religion.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:52 pm to the808bass
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Trump isn’t going to do anything, simp. The DOJ will just filing suits.
Exactly
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And they’ll win
By the time they're argued the bans will likely be lifted anyway so they will be moot. Again, all PR
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:55 pm to Azkiger
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Nah you're just so use to being in a bubble you literally can't understand proper criticism.
Not really. You don't really know my "bubble"... You also jumped in at this part of the conversation and probably did not follow along...
The concept of faith doesn't require you to see something in order to believe it and have faith... I do not care where the faith is place (well I do but that is another argument), there is a matter of placing trust in something without reservation...
This is what I contend the troll doesn't understand or is being obtuse about...
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You're going to give a reason.
This sounds like a demand. I find that funny...
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Why do you have faith in the Christian God.
Simple answer is because of the things He has done in my life that nothing else could have done. I have no doubt He exists and that there is an eternity waiting on those that profess their belief in Him and His son giving His life on the cross for our sins.
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faith doesn't cut it
Actually it does cut it.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:56 pm to tigerinDC09
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By the time they're argued
Already lifted in NC, look it up... oops... there goes that credibility again...
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:57 pm to The Maj
quote:Those usually involved cases where churches were treated differently than other assemblies or gatherings.
"restrained" but there have been some rulings lately that say it have most definitely not been "restrained" especially when it comes to placing restraints on the free exercise of religion...
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:58 pm to tigerinDC09
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By the time they're argued the bans will likely be lifted anyway so they will be moot. Again, all PR
No. When the second wave come back in the fall ....
Bahaha bahaha
Anyway, in the future, when this kind of shite gets started up again and governors or a President decides they can use a deep snowstorm or a bad case of rhinorrhea to shut down churches, we’ll have precedent established.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:58 pm to The Maj
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Simple answer is because of the things He has done in my life that nothing else could have done.
There's your reason.
Where's the faith in the above statement?
What I said is true. Faith has to be propped up by reason, it cannot stand on its own.
Saying you simply have faith isn't telling the whole story because you've chosen to have faith in Christianity over, say, Islam.
There's a reason why you chose to have faith in Christianity over Islam.
Faith can't cut it by itself. So why even mention it?
Lead with your reason.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:00 pm to texridder
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Those usually involved
And yet not absolute... I get it diddler, you like for someone to bend you over and tell you to like it and you are a big fan of the government...
Some of us like our rights with a little less infringement...
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:02 pm to tigerinDC09
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Within certain circumstances, yes. This is basic constitutional law stuff.
While you are correct, the problem in this instance is that many states at this point appear to be imposing different standards on churches compared to other areas of public gathering. For instance, in some states movie theatres have been allowed to open but churches are still under state or local lockdown recommendations or orders.
Fire codes are applied equally to all buildings within a given jurisdiction.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:03 pm to Azkiger
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it cannot stand on its own.
It most certainly can stand on its own and I do not expect you to understand it. Your lack of belief or faith does not cheapen my faith, nor should my faith offend your philosophical lack of faith...
I find it funny how another's faith seems to be a poking hot iron to the side of those without any faith... Is it your lack of hope that causes you such pain? Or is it you are jealous of someone else's ability to have faith?
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:04 pm to tigerinDC09
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Right, with a measured, reasonable leader, we could have discussions about places that can have church outside or other inventive ideas. instead we get this pr stunt.
Yeah.....like the dipshits in MS that gave out $500 fines for people sitting in their cars, windows rolled up in a church parking lot. Meanwhile, people flocked to Walmart or other stores in the same. Those kind of measured, reasonable leaders? How do some of you function in daily life?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
If you start rubbing his nose in it too he may cry.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:05 pm to The Maj
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It most certainly can stand on its own
Through what processes can faith determine truth from falsehood?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:08 pm to Azkiger
In Louisiana, JBE already let the churches open.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:09 pm to GeorgeWest
You ain’t black.
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