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re: Trump is securing National Security choke points

Posted on 8/29/26 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 3:50 pm to
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quote:The biggest choke point in the world The biggest choke point in the world today is Taiwan.

It is, which is why Trump’s efforts to force chip manufacturing back here is so important.

China has 3 major points of leverage over us
- pharmaceutical manufacturing
- critical mineral processing
- ability to attack Taiwan and control chip manufacturing
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:15 pm to
Insurance?



You did not answer that.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 5:57 pm to
Well you didn’t say anything about insurance.

But insurance premiums have gone up significantly since the war began.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:12 pm to
Yes I did.

Ah. I see typo for “instance” fees.


Apologies. However, care to answer on my mistake?
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 6:16 pm
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:44 pm to
I don’t understand your question? Ships had to be insured prior to the war. Now they pay more for insurance. Premiums are up around 40x what they were prior to the war.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:07 pm to
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Ships had to be insured prior to the war. Now they pay more for insurance. Premiums are up around 40x what they were prior to the war.


Ships that took the Hormuz paid more for insurance to a Lloyd’s syndicate than ships that didn’t take the strait.

You ask how many were hit before the conflict.

My point is the the good businessmen that paid their Lloyds insurance of about $250k didn’t get hit. A mob payo ff if you will.

So it’s not free passage.

Those that pay, didn’t get hit.

Those that would be foolish not to pay the don’t hit fee…..got hit.



Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:13 pm to
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Look at what he’s doing
- wrestled Panama Canal away from China
- Freed Venezuela from Maduro and now have control of 2/3rd of their oil reserves.. not to mention their other critical minerals, fertilizer and gold
- created Pax Sillica to create a critical mineral alliance
- we basically control Iraq’s oil and now control all oil coming out of the strait of Hormuz
- Greenland is all about the resources they have and China/Russia pathway
- used tariffs to force pharma to rebuild in America as a lesson from COVID
- used tariffs to push domestic production in semiconductors, steel, aluminum, autos, shipbuilding and other critical minerals
- and beyond this has used his influence to flip almost every government in central and s America to conservative leaning



-ending global manufacturing of critical military hardward.
-cutting the funding throat of all ME Proxy terrorists groups.
-neutering Canada and UK for sticking us in the back over our departure from the Globalist model.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:19 pm to
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Ships that took the Hormuz paid more for insurance to a Lloyd’s syndicate than ships that didn’t take the strait. You ask how many were hit before the conflict. My point is the the good businessmen that paid their Lloyds insurance of about $250k didn’t get hit. A mob payo ff if you will. So it’s not free passage. Those that pay, didn’t get hit. Those that would be foolish not to pay the don’t hit fee…..got hit.


How many that didn’t pay insurance got hit prior to the war?
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:25 pm to
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How many that didn’t pay insurance got hit prior to the war?
there is not a reliable source that can answer that.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
1069 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:39 pm to
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there is not a reliable source that can answer that.


I personally never heard of an instance where it happened outside of the late 80’s when Iran tried to blockade Iraq and Kuwait. And I’m pretty sure we used our military to put that to a stop with a quickness. Maybe it did happen and it just never made the news but as of now I am unaware of any ships being struck.

So, to your previous post, if a ship chose to not pay the 150-200k in premiums to transit the strait they simply were uninsured. Now ships are paying in the millions in premiums to transit the strait.
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 7:40 pm
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:45 pm to
Okay.

I’d like to look at multiplying the number of ships that paid a Lloyd’s 250k from 2015 to 2025.

Thats a lot of money.

And to your point, anywhere from 5 to 10. Million per ship is a lot of money too.


Do you ever envision ripping a bandaid off to create a strait that doesn’t need such a high risk fee?
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
1069 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Do you ever envision ripping a bandaid off to create a strait that doesn’t need such a high risk fee?


Creating a strait? Like a whole new water way? Probably not. Hopefully over time pipelines will lessen the need for the strait but that’s a long way off. I’d like to rip the bandaid off by forcibly taking the strait with the military and winning the war.
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 7:57 pm to
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. I’d like to rip the bandaid off by forcibly taking the strait with the military and winning the war.


Me too.
Posted by duckblind56
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 8:01 pm to
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You are a moron.


Maybe he will go back to his moms basement if we all ignore him.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49911 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 8:24 pm to
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could sneak closer to top 5

cannot think of 5 better
Posted by bluewatersailor
Member since Oct 2018
663 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 10:26 pm to
Today on news that hates Trump they said its up to 45 million barrels a day. So your 3rd party must be Hillary.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
2069 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 1:55 am to
Good synopsis.

And he has done so much more, that is not listed (unrelated to 'national security', but very important)
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
5516 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 2:08 am to
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Good synopsis. And he has done so much more, that is not listed (unrelated to 'national security', but very important)

Yah one thing all these black pillers seem to forget is how much culture stuff and early wins he locked up in the first few months of the administration… all the DEI stuff, all the things he’s done to bring universities to heel, then all the DOGE type wins like cutting gov programs and employees and now finding waste and fraud

You’ve also got Kennedy and Maha wins..
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
1069 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:30 am to
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Today on news that hates Trump they said its up to 45 million barrels a day. So your 3rd party must be Hillary.


Well I don’t know what source you heard that from but 45 million barrels a day would be more than twice the price war levels. So I’m gonna go ahead and call bullshite.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
2069 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:39 am to
I agree, and that was what i was mostly talking about, the cultural stuff.
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