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re: Trump is not a conservative

Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:41 am to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:41 am to
I voted for Bill Clinton in 1996.

In 2016, I told people on this board repeatedly that Trump's platform matched that of Clinton. Major social issue was that trump was pro-gay marriage before Clinton was (or needed to be).

Trump has never been conservative nor advertised as such.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:41 am to
Doesn't matter.

He's governed more conservatively than any president in my lifetime (which includes Reagan)
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:42 am to
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So, why should conservatives support him?
I asked this during the primary. I just got called a Kamala supporter, but never had any substantive response. It was hilarious that some around here thought if you didn't find Trump conservative enough, you were obviously a Kamala voter.

The mid terms are going to be brutal unless Trump is able to run the okie-doke again.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94242 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:42 am to
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Trump is not a conservative


Thanlfully. Its its why he won the WH twice
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:44 am to
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He's governed more conservatively than any president in my lifetime (which includes Reagan)
Not that I'm defending the guy, but our deficit was $165 billion in 2007. It's 10x that now.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:45 am to
I won’t be satisfied until it’s at 1776 levels. If he doesn’t do that, he’s just not conservative.
Posted by Jtomka
Member since Sep 2022
268 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:46 am to
Nobody ever considered him conservative.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:46 am to
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Trump is not a conservative


Thanlfully


Man, MAGA really hates fiscal responsibility.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94242 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:48 am to
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The mid terms are going to be brutal unless Trump is able to run the okie-doke again.


Because of conservatives? You are a dying breed thankfully. But typical that you Iosers would sit at home take an L then complain

The cuckservative way!
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39858 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:49 am to
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So why should conservatives support a platform that is Clinton era policies?


I’ve not argued they should or shouldn’t, just stating reality.

The short answer is, no politician aligns 100% with any ideal, so you pick the ones that check the most boxes. The “conservatives” out there have proven to be not at all, so you look to see who will do what they say they will.

Long answer, Trump has some more conservative positions and some not so conservative position. One core position of conservatism is limiting government scope and having it be lean. Well, that is a pillar of Trump’s policies. Now, I think while he has certainly tried doing that and made some good progress, it’s been far from great improvement. Better than we’ve had in decades, but still leaves plenty to be desired.

As to why a conservative “should” support Trump, I would say the argument would be that his stances on trying to reel in government bloat, foreign policy, and overall support for the American businesses would need to outweigh his more democratic positions. If you think they do, then that would be why you would support him.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:49 am to
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Man, MAGA really hates fiscal responsibility.
After a campaign season of saying everyone was a RINO GOPE puppet, now they are touting being a RINO GOPE puppet as a good thing. But it's totally not a cult.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:50 am to
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He’s not a progressive or a conservative - he’s a huckster



Would you buy a used car from this man?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:52 am to
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Because of conservatives? You are a dying breed thankfully. But typical that you Iosers would sit at home take an L then complain
Definately. We need more RINOs. WhO dID yOu VoTe FoR?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94242 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:52 am to
None of those cars look used
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:54 am to
A
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fter a campaign season of saying everyone was a RINO GOPE puppet, now they are touting being a RINO GOPE puppet as a good thing. But it's totally not a cult.


Going after Rand and Massie proved these folks are just ideologically bereft followers.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24868 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:55 am to
Ok
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23792 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:57 am to
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He never has been.


A corollary point here is that when many Republicans call Trump a RINO, it most certainly is true. Compared to what preceded him, DJT is a RINO.

And that is a good thing. Indeed, Trump’s most enduring appeal is that Trump has enemies in all the right places.





Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:57 am to
One day you’ll learn we voted for Trump because he’s neither conservative nor liberal. The two far sides who have tds are the ones who always cry about shite but have about 10% support together.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:58 am to
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The two far sides who have tds are the ones who always cry about shite


If you are so sure of Trump, why do you dismiss criticisms of him?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3802 posts
Posted on 6/7/25 at 11:58 am to
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None of those cars look used

So you're saying that's an actual new car sales lot?













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