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re: Trump: If you had Covid, you have natural immunity and certainly don’t need the vaccine.

Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25094 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:31 pm to
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It is also their risk to take to require vaccines.


So they should be liable for any vaccine injuries. Correct?



Yeah, I don't think legal immunity that was extended to the pharma producers extends to companies insisting that employees get vaxxed on pain of firing.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125360 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:55 pm to
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don't think legal immunity that was extended to the pharma producers extends to companies insisting that employees get vaxxed on pain of firing.


Watch what happens. The government, including the courts are going to bend over backwards for the narrative.
Posted by wayak
Member since Oct 2021
186 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:21 pm to
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Once again, Trump is dead wrong.
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lol

LINK (Israel study)


Ah, ok, Israel’s scientists are ok when it comes to covid research, but not the CDC.

Well then let's see what Israel says about vaccinations.

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Prime Minister Naftali Bennett issued a fresh appeal on Thursday for all Israelis to get the coronavirus vaccine, accusing those eligible to get vaccinated who have not done so of endangering the rest of the country. ...

“Every citizen over age 12 who doesn’t have a medical reason not to must go get vaccinated,” he said.

“One million Israelis are refusing to get vaccinated,” Bennett continued. “They are endangering the entire population, they are endangering the other 8 million citizens in the country.” ...

He warned that the vaccine holdouts could cause the government to impose a fourth national lockdown since the pandemic began.

“If you know a vaccine refuser, convince them, explain to them that they are risking others’ health,” the premier said. “Don’t give up on them.”



I'm not giving up on y'all. For your own sake, and for your family, please get vaccinated.

Like Trump did.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170606 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Bottom line: taking it was HIS CHOICE…the same choice he advocates for everyone else.

And I think we should have that choice

Just don't be surprised if you're excluded from certain activities if you refuse to get it
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84255 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:34 pm to
Like a job.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15431 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:41 pm to
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“Every citizen over age 12 who doesn’t have a medical reason not to must go get vaccinated,” he said.


So you’re just going to ignore the data that shows the risk from Covid to those under 18 is extremely small?

What about the risk of myocarditis the vaccine poses to teenage boys?

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He warned that the vaccine holdouts could cause the government to impose a fourth national lockdown since the pandemic began.


So his answer to people not taking a vaccine is to impose the same lockdowns that didn’t work in the first place? Sounds anti science to me.

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“One million Israelis are refusing to get vaccinated,” Bennett continued. “They are endangering the entire population, they are endangering the other 8 million citizens in the country.” ...

“If you know a vaccine refuser, convince them, explain to them that they are risking others’ health,” the premier said. “Don’t give up on them.”


If you’re vaccinated then how does someone else’s vaccination status effect you? If you have the vaccine then you’re safe, right?
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9365 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:44 pm to
My best buddy got corona a year ago. Got vaxxed in Feb then got his booster last month.

He and his fam got it again 2 weeks ago, and were sick as frick.


The problem with you people and your stupid fricking studies and percentages is you have no coherent response to REAL stories from REAL people.

frick off
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Yeah, that’s not true. Even a little bit. But it’s Trump, so misinformation is on brand.



So you want to debate a study with an N > 2.5M…..party of science my arse!
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:51 pm to
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There are like 15 studies from all over the world that says otherwise. Probably should stop listening to the cdc, who has repeatedly misled the American public



This is a 100% true statement but the people who swear by CNN or MSNBC will claim it’s not true because it’s never been said on those networks…..sheeple!
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21797 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:54 pm to
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I'm not giving up on y'all. For your own sake, and for your family, please get vaccinated.

Like Trump did.

Trump is fat and near 80 years old. He was smart to get vaccinated. If you’re healthy, fit and not way old, there’s no need to be vaccinated. If you have natural immunity, there’s no need to be vaccinated.

It’s weird that this is still a debate. What happened to science?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:54 pm to
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So is all of the CDC wrong?


Are you going to blindly trust the Government 100%? I mean similar bureaucrats said OxyContin was not addictive. That smoking posed no long-term health risks. That Joe is a unifier!
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Common sense.


Yeah. Who needs virologists when orange man have common sense??
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:02 pm to
Were is the science in any of what you quoted below?

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Prime Minister Naftali Bennett issued a fresh appeal on Thursday for all Israelis to get the coronavirus vaccine, accusing those eligible to get vaccinated who have not done so of endangering the rest of the country. ... “Every citizen over age 12 who doesn’t have a medical reason not to must go get vaccinated,” he said. “One million Israelis are refusing to get vaccinated,” Bennett continued. “They are endangering the entire population, they are endangering the other 8 million citizens in the country.” ... He warned that the vaccine holdouts could cause the government to impose a fourth national lockdown since the pandemic began. “If you know a vaccine refuser, convince them, explain to them that they are risking others’ health,” the premier said. “Don’t give up on them
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2430 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:15 pm to
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Well then let's see what Israel says about vaccinations.



That’s Israel’s *government*, not its scientists.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13201 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:21 pm to
Always hilarious to see how much Big Daddy Trump triggers the lefties
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15431 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Ah, ok, Israel’s scientists are ok when it comes to covid research, but not the CDC.


Have the Israeli scientists who published the study on natural immunity given you any reason to distrust them?

I’ve seen plenty of reasons to distrust the CDC.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87523 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:40 pm to
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Just don't be surprised if you're excluded from certain activities if you refuse to get it


Yeah. Not worried.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:50 pm to
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Since he had Coronavirus BEFORE he GOT THE VACCINE why is he now flip flopping?

Trump Gets Sick - October last year - CNN
LINK /

Trump Gets Shot - January of this year - Trump says "How unbelievably painless the shot is so everyone go out and get vaccine" - CNN
LINK


Israeli study in September 2021

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The variant was 27 times more likely to break through Pfizer protection from January-February and cause symptoms than it was to penetrate natural immunity from the same period


It’s like we are learning more about WuFlu and why many don’t need the clot shot as more studies are done. Weird.
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