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re: Trump: I wouldn’t support a COVID shutdown - I never had one
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:26 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:26 pm to rmnldr
People should consider from a logical perspective there’s two scenarios re the scamdemic. If Trump wanted to avoid all the mass hysteria and shutdowns etc but was powerless to stop it then why vote for him? And if he had the power to stop it but didn’t act then why vote for him? Those are the only two possible scenarios he’s either a liar and a traitor or a feckless moron. Almost everyone who’s ever been in Washington fits into those two categories
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:30 pm to Unclejimbo83
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And if he was cheated in 2020 which there’s good reason to think he was—not a damn thing has changed since so how’s he even getting
This is not true. Several states rules regarding drop boxes, mail I. Ballots, and signature verification will nit be allowed to be illegally ignored in 2024. Unless they unleash another virus on us.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:32 pm to BBONDS25
There are no more rules elections are a farce. They’ll dump ballots in the cities until they’ve got the numbers for the guy they want
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:32 pm to blueboxer1119
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Regarding Covid and Fauci, what exactly should have Trump done?
Be specific.
He should have fired the guy put in place 30 years ago, who for all he knows is a decent person and knowledgeable doctor? Should he have gone on the news and told the world he was more informed than that doctor and he wasn’t going to take his advice? How would that have gone you think?
Should he have just known this doctor had bad intentions or motives, despite having that position for 30 years?
If he fired Fauci, when should he have done it? What date? Who would be his replacement?
I’d like more specifics.
Off the top of my head and for starters -
1. He should have directed his own due diligence on what he was being told by his own CDC. If you are the chief executive of anything substantial and some staff dude with supposed expertise comes to your office to tell you that you've got to shut half of the company down and add debt equal to about half your annual revenue - are you going to think, "frick, he's the expert, I have no choice but to follow his direction" or are you going to do enough due diligence that you uncover things like - if your CDC hadn't rewritten the policy for cause of death for Covid, Covid deaths would be a fraction of what was being reported and oh, by the way, over half of "Covid hospitalizations" involved patients that were asymptomatic for Covid or suffering mild Covid symptoms.
2. When you learned that your own CDC was trying to frick your presidency in the arse, yeah - make changes. You can't fire Fauci? - fine, reassign him.
3. Be the leader that stands up and says "outside of isolating/treating Americans truly at risk from this virus, it's business as usual" - those truly at risk were (mostly) already infirmed/non-productive in terms of the economy.
4. Spend the money to isolate/treat those truly at risk. That's it. Fight all spending beyond that.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:35 pm to the808bass
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But he says that he acknowledges Trump did worse. Which makes his constant criticism of DeSantis on the same subject really puzzling.
I did say Trump did worse. I also said bringing up what DeSantis did is hardly a criticism and not a big deal. I simply pointed out some facts about the DeSantis EOs.
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He might be having ongoing TIAs. That’s my best guess at the moment.
It’s really not that hard to keep up with the point I’m making. Your response is bizarre. Any perceived slight of DeSantis is met with disbelief by some of yall.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:36 pm to BBONDS25
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Any perceived slight of Trump is met with disbelief and anger by some of yall.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:37 pm to Fun Bunch
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But even though Trump did HORRENDOUS on the biggest issue of our time and his presidency, he is still voting for him and will not even consider anyone else.
Biggest issue to you. Trump’s performance during a pandemic is not in my top 50 issues for the 2024 election. If they release another virus then I will have made a mistake.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:39 pm to BBONDS25
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also said bringing up what DeSantis did is hardly a criticism and not a big deal.
The next step would be allowing your posting habits to incorporate this truth into it. If it’s “not important,” then you don’t need to interject it into every thread about Trump and Covid.
You can’t do that because it is important to you and you believe it’s important to the discussion.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:40 pm to the808bass
Also he tried for 10 pages to imply that Desantis shut down all beaches.
When finally confronted with it was two fricking counties for 11 days at the local governments request, he says that's what he meant all along, and tries to make it a big deal.
Then a few pages later, says it was no big deal.
When finally confronted with it was two fricking counties for 11 days at the local governments request, he says that's what he meant all along, and tries to make it a big deal.
Then a few pages later, says it was no big deal.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:45 pm to BBONDS25
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Trump’s performance during a pandemic is not in my top 50 issues for the 2024 election.
Then you're a fool for Democrats.
It's not that Trump performed horribly during a pandemic. It's that Trump performed horribly during a full frontal assault by the establishment and Left to claw more wealth and control from the middle class. And you're fooling yourself if you think they won't be doing this again in some form/fashion.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:46 pm to rmnldr
He is technically correct. Individual states shut down.
But it was because of guidance from "his" CDC and FDA
But it was because of guidance from "his" CDC and FDA
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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Also he tried for 10 pages to imply that Desantis shut down all beaches.
I most certainly did not. I corrected you when you said he didn’t shut down beaches. I immediately posted the EO and pointed to the section. It was a two page order. It wasn’t hard to read.
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When finally confronted with it was two fricking counties for 11 days at the local governments request, he says that's what he meant all along, and tries to make it a big deal.
I meant what I said. That you were factually incorrect when you made the false claim the Ron did not shut down beaches.
quote:. It wasn’t a big deal. And easily verifiable, which is what makes your factually incorrect claim so bizarre.
Then a few pages later, says it was no big deal.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:47 pm to rmnldr
Trump is not a Federalist, willing to bet he has never read all the papers.
He is a mob boss wanna be.
He is a mob boss wanna be.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:47 pm to David_DJS
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It's not that Trump performed horribly during a pandemic.
On all fronts.
Spending
Liberty
Addressing BLM riots
Overreach of control from Federal agencies
Etc etc etc
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:48 pm to the808bass
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then you don’t need to interject it into every thread about Trump and Covid. You can’t do that because it is important to you and you believe it’s important to the discussion.
oh man. You really can’t handle even the slightest criticism of your dear leader. I can’t post in threads now? 
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:49 pm to BBONDS25
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You really can’t handle even the slightest criticism of your dear leader
They cannot. But you MUST criticize Orange
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:49 pm to the808bass
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On all fronts. Spending Liberty Addressing BLM riots Overreach of control from Federal agencies Etc etc etc
Enjoy your tax cut.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:50 pm to SDVTiger
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But you MUST criticize Orange
Vol fan?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:56 pm to BBONDS25
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Enjoy your tax cut.
And you enjoy the stolen 2020 election.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:57 pm to David_DJS
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And you enjoy the stolen 2020 election.
I don’t enjoy that at all. There were tons of illegal votes that were counted.
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